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Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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post #44

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Or they could just use a different solution that supports both Android and iOS. Most people won't carry a second device for just one app.

like what? Feel free to post your preferred messenger that works p2p without internet.

Scuttlebutt works over wifi, tor, internet, sneakernets, etc. There is an android client called Manyverse; a desktop app, a cli client, libraries in Python, Java, NodeJS...

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

#63
post #56

Briar is really neat, and I hope it will land on Linux, Mac and Windows. Being able to send messages and files directly to anybody on a local network without any account just rocks.

since recently, there's a cross-platform desktop client in development using compose for desktop as its UI framework

I found the code repository for Briar desktop port: https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar-desktop

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Peer to Peer data transfer via computing devices is something I wish was be more mainstream. It's not, because the commercial cloud storage mafia has invested heavily in telling people that your data has to traverse their toll roads first. I recently discovered Syncthing Fork which was customizable in a way Google Drive or alternatives were not. And it's entirely P2P, transmitting files between my laptop and my phone…

> Peer to Peer data transfer via computing devices is something I wish was be more mainstream. It's not, because the commercial cloud storage mafia has invested heavily in telling people that your data has to traverse their toll roads first. Been in software half my life never heard anyone saying anything like this. It's most of the time easier and more efficient to use cloud storage than to spin up and bootstrap a p…

This is absurd. Try synchronizing a GB of data between two devices in the same room on an ADSL. If they (stupidly) bounce through an external server it might take an hour.

Not to mention if you are on a mobile connection.

Very people on this planet have fast + symmetric + unlimited bandwith available 24/7.

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Wow these features really emphasize how Briar is focused on an arab spring situation where the internet access is restricted. The most common gripe about Briar is that it's not on iOS, but clearly there is nothing like Briar anywhere. Just too bad about the bluetooth thing. I don't see why it should leak your BT ID. That should definitely be an opt-in feature.

iOS already has a built in feature with AirDrop. Everything except apps can be shared through it and it uses a local connection whenever possible.

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Why Bluetooth when WiFi is a hundred times faster?

AFAIK there's still no standardized, non-proprietary, easy, out of the box way to share files between different phones brands/OS and/or PCs using WiFi as Android/Samsung/Apple each do their own thing here. You have to resort to setting up an ftp server and/or download extra apps on your phone for this, whereas Bluetooth file sharing is standardized and should work out of the box on any phone brand or OS (not sure on…

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Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Why Bluetooth when WiFi is a hundred times faster?

AFAIK there's still no standardized, non-proprietary, easy, out of the box way to share files between different phones brands/OS and/or PCs using WiFi as Android/Samsung/Apple each do their own thing here. You have to resort to setting up an ftp server and/or download extra apps on your phone for this, whereas Bluetooth file sharing is standardized and should work out of the box on any phone brand or OS (not sure on…

KDE connect is actually really fantastic at this.

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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post #65
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Wow these features really emphasize how Briar is focused on an arab spring situation where the internet access is restricted. The most common gripe about Briar is that it's not on iOS, but clearly there is nothing like Briar anywhere. Just too bad about the bluetooth thing. I don't see why it should leak your BT ID. That should definitely be an opt-in feature.

iOS already has a built in feature with AirDrop. Everything except apps can be shared through it and it uses a local connection whenever possible.

Yeah but Briar communicates over Onion routing, good luck finding that in iOS.

The local communications are of course not onion routed, goes without saying. It's a whole little tookit of subversive communication, including some anonymous and some not.

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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post #4

Peer to Peer data transfer via computing devices is something I wish was be more mainstream. It's not, because the commercial cloud storage mafia has invested heavily in telling people that your data has to traverse their toll roads first. I recently discovered Syncthing Fork which was customizable in a way Google Drive or alternatives were not. And it's entirely P2P, transmitting files between my laptop and my phone…

> Bluetooth transfer There was a brief period while I was at school where people would share mp3 files with each other this way. This was before 2010.

In some areas of the world, this method seems to have persisted longer. Sahel Sounds released two compilations "Music from Saharan Cellphones" of tracks that they originally discovered on such bluetooth sharing networks: https://sahelsoundscompilations.bandcamp.com/album/music-fro...

(Though I'm pretty sure that they then went back and established traditional contractual relationships with the artists before releasing the compilations).

Re: Briar 1.4 – Offline sharing, message transfer via SD cards and USB sticks

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Briar desperately needs a library for Linux and Windows that can be used to build all sort of applications.

Discussion forums, group chat, IM, location-based messaging, email/mailing-list equivalents, blogs and offline websites and more. Not just one app.

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