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Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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Every time I hear or read about happiness, I remember this quote from Thomas Metzinger. I hope you’ll find it useful, too: “Evolution as such is not a process to be glorified: It is blind, driven by chance and not by insight. It is merciless and sacrifices individuals. It invented the reward system in the brain; it invented positive and negative feelings to motivate our behavior; it placed us on a hedonic treadmill t…

Well, if you want a really reductionist view of happiness, which also happens to be largely true, you could say: have children.

What does that mean?

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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'Commute less' should be taken with a grain of salt unless one talks about cars. Any form of transport I take where I am not driving the vehicle myself gives me time to read, relax, think – even meditate (trains are great for this). I know for a fact that I read most books/month in my life in times I had a job that included at least 20 mins of commute (one way) on public transport.

In terms of commuting, 20 minutes is my threshold for starting counting the minutes.

Anything up to 20 minutes is zero in my mind.

I used to commute 90 minutes via public transport. Twice daily. Did I read a lot? Sure. It still was a nightmare.

I now commute 17 minutes by car. Biggest improvement of life quality I've ever had.

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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post #14

Every time I hear or read about happiness, I remember this quote from Thomas Metzinger. I hope you’ll find it useful, too: “Evolution as such is not a process to be glorified: It is blind, driven by chance and not by insight. It is merciless and sacrifices individuals. It invented the reward system in the brain; it invented positive and negative feelings to motivate our behavior; it placed us on a hedonic treadmill t…

> happiness was never an end in itself

It's even worse than that. From an evolutionary point of view happiness is a dead end. There is no reason to evolve if you are happy.

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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I don't like his proposed end goal. His happiness sounds like a mere absense of pain, but other methods will get you there more reliably. I like the first items on his list: go into the world and mess around, but then he begins to prescribe mental cleanliness: finish your plate, associate only with good people, don't cling to material possessions. It's like he's picking arbitrary chapters from Hesse's Siddhartha. I f…

So many of those themes are found outside the Gita, often they can be uncovered thru a good life. But the cohesion is missing - it does feel like the author cut out small bits of Dogma from many 'religions' as they were uncovered or found relevant, informed by their experience. The main point I find interesting is that each of us does this 'pick and choose'.

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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I don't disagree with the article in principle, but to me it seems that us the modern people are pressured much harder than previous generations.

At 41 y/o I have arrived at most of the same wisdom but I can't see how and where can I implement it.

As others commenters said, I wish I could take a pay cut and work on things I love more than my current job. I absolutely can't afford it; not because I can't take the income hit month by month -- I surely can, let's not forget us the programmers are rather privileged -- but I can't afford not saving, especially having in mind where does the world seem to go (potential economical crisis on the horizon).

If I arrive at a point in my life where I can unquestionably abide by the philosophy described in the article, I might cry emotionally, while yelling of pain and happiness at the same time. For now though, it's still not happening.

(And that's leaving aside the fact that I don't necessarily agree that material minimalism leads to happiness necessarily.)

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you want a really reductionist view of happiness, which also happens to be largely true, you could say: have children.

What does that mean?

The quote in the parent comment says that the whole hedonic machinery within us is a result of natural selection, of which conscious happiness is just a side effect. Then why not just go ahead and do what that machinery drives you do to: go and have offspring. Chances are that this is the nexus where most happiness can be found.

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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'Commute less' should be taken with a grain of salt unless one talks about cars. Any form of transport I take where I am not driving the vehicle myself gives me time to read, relax, think – even meditate (trains are great for this). I know for a fact that I read most books/month in my life in times I had a job that included at least 20 mins of commute (one way) on public transport.

Maybe you have some podcasts you want to listen to. Or books. Or just music. A car can be a joy too, but I would struggle to fill 1 hour each way though.

Re: Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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Every time I hear or read about happiness, I remember this quote from Thomas Metzinger. I hope you’ll find it useful, too: “Evolution as such is not a process to be glorified: It is blind, driven by chance and not by insight. It is merciless and sacrifices individuals. It invented the reward system in the brain; it invented positive and negative feelings to motivate our behavior; it placed us on a hedonic treadmill t…

Well, if you want a really reductionist view of happiness, which also happens to be largely true, you could say: have children.

It kind of works, honestly.

Since my son was born earlier this year (first kid), I certainly see how he can effortlessly make me happy in a way I found hard to achieve earlier.

While I handled most of my depression-like issues before (mostly anxiety), he seems to have a great impact on making me feel fully recovered, motivated and wanting things from life again.

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