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What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Technically, 0^0 is an indeterminate form and has no specific solution. Accurate but unhelpful. Practically, 0^0 highlights the issue that most of us don't have a good conceptual model for what exponents really do. How would you explain to a 10-year old why 3^0 = 1 beyond "it's necessary to make the algebra of powers work out". I use an "expand-o-tron" analogy http://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-exponen…

> How would you explain to a 10-year old why 3^0 = 1 beyond "it's necessary to make the algebra of powers work out". Actually, that's exactly the reason 3^0=1: it was the definition that preserved the most identities. Agreed that this explanation doesn't really help intuition.

What is true in mathematics is whatever leads to no logical contradictions.

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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The high school teacher in the link is a B.S. in math education. They're usually reflexive Platonists, believing that math is out there, and we merely discover it. This is a result of the teaching of undergrad math as essentially a series of completed works, with little history attached to it. This teacher probably hasn't thought critically about why, say, 1/x^2 = x^(-2). By contrast, a mathematician has a Ph.D. in m…

wait.. you mean math is simply made up? It's not the language of the universe?

well that's just depressing.

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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The high school teacher in the link is a B.S. in math education. They're usually reflexive Platonists, believing that math is out there, and we merely discover it. This is a result of the teaching of undergrad math as essentially a series of completed works, with little history attached to it. This teacher probably hasn't thought critically about why, say, 1/x^2 = x^(-2). By contrast, a mathematician has a Ph.D. in m…

> They're usually reflexive Platonists, believing that math is out there, and we merely discover it. This is a result of the teaching of undergrad math as essentially a series of completed works, with little history attached to it.

It's not entirely clear what you mean by this, but in the most obvious interpretation this idea is correct.

Here's what I mean by that: math deals with pure logic. All logical deductions (derivations from axioms to conclusions in formal systems) are in a sense "out there", waiting to be discovered. Certainly they have always been true, before people knew about them, and there are deductions that are true even though no one knows about them yet.

The other interpretation, which you probably meant, was the question of mathematical style and interest: which axioms do we study, and why do we care about them, and why are some theorems important and others not important? Certainly the definition that 1/x^2 = x^(-2) was made for consistency, which is an aspect of style. You could make some other definition and do formal reasoning just as well (although you'd have to change some other things - maybe the definition of exponentiation, maybe your interpretation of symbols on paper).

But either way, I think you are wrong that high school teachers don't think critically about why 1/x^2 = x^(-2). Some may be bad teachers, but I have known a lot of incredibly good high school math teachers, and I suspect they have thought about this. In fact, when I talk to mathematicians about high school education, they usually agree that people doing research know more parts of mathematics than high school teachers, but good high school teachers have a much deeper understanding of elementary math than people doing research, because they have had to approach it from many different angles in order to teach different students.

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Doesn't a simple application of l'hospital solve this?

This is completely off-topic, but did you mean to call it l'hospital as opposed to L'Hôpital? I remember even my calculus book had similar errors, and I always wondered if it was just because the two looked so similar (or if there was any more reasoning behind it). didn't mean to nitpick, your comment just triggered a repressed train of thought :)

His original name was actually Guillaume de l'Hospital; French spelling reforms later did away with a number of cases of silent 's' (which had been silent for a long time already), replacing it with a circumflex over the preceding vowel.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_the_circumflex_in_French...

and: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_de_l%27H%C3%B4pital#c...

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Try these for size ( actual interview questions )

PITA interviewer > What's bigger, e^pi or pi^e ?

If you get past that one,

PITA interviewer > What's i^1 ?

Clever student> Its just 1 unit on the imaginary axis.

PITA interviewer >Good! So then, whats i^i ?

Clever student > Probably a few more units on the imaginary axis!

PITA interviewer >Then why does google say 0.207 ( http://www.google.com/search?q=i^i )

Clever student> hmmm...ohhh...aaahhh....WTF...I hate math I don't want this stupid stupid job lemme go back to coding monads in Haskell for my ubercool startup.

PITA interviewer >Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Doesn't a simple application of l'hospital solve this?

This is completely off-topic, but did you mean to call it l'hospital as opposed to L'Hôpital? I remember even my calculus book had similar errors, and I always wondered if it was just because the two looked so similar (or if there was any more reasoning behind it). didn't mean to nitpick, your comment just triggered a repressed train of thought :)

It's not an error. The french changed their spelling to replace a silent 's' after some letters with a circumflex over those letters. Using the silent s instead of a circumflex is considered correct when transcribing into English.

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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Doesn't a simple application of l'hospital solve this?

No. What would you apply it to in 0^0? The best you could do is come up with two functions, f(x) and g(x), with f(x) and g(x) going to 0 as x goes to 0, and try to use it to evaluate f(x)^g(x), but the result is going to depend on exactly what your choices are for f(x) and g(x).

Re: What does 0^0 equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree?

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The high school teacher in the link is a B.S. in math education. They're usually reflexive Platonists, believing that math is out there, and we merely discover it. This is a result of the teaching of undergrad math as essentially a series of completed works, with little history attached to it. This teacher probably hasn't thought critically about why, say, 1/x^2 = x^(-2). By contrast, a mathematician has a Ph.D. in m…

wait.. you mean math is simply made up? It's not the language of the universe? well that's just depressing.

Although my mathematician friends would probably yell at me if they heard this, as far as I see things it's hardly any different from physics. Just a model we create to describe observed phenomenon.
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