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Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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About Reddit: how can users be comfortable with a repository which does not have a decent navigation of past submissions?! You cannot navigate by page, you cannot search by date (or time range), you may be bound to an "infinite scroll" system without a "bookmark" to return there later... Do not users demanding by trade decent control have the disappointing impression they are driving a car without seat or floor, or w…

One silent downvoter (random phenomenon, part of the noise) highlights though one answer to

> how can users be comfortable with a repository which does not have a decent navigation

: because some are not using it as a repository, they are there for the experience. Completely different mentality in approaching tools, to feed mouths in very different places. The information seeker and the gambler. The "feeler" of "r/aww" not there for a catalogue of kittens.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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One thing that struck me while reading this is the potential connection of doomscrolling to our evolution.

Humans are in large part "information foragers", in the sense that information has been vitally important to our survival as a species, and potentially a part of why we've developed larger brains than similar animals. [0] For example: A poisonous berry has a very different utility from an edible berry. Or: A monsoon season changes the climate enough to make an important difference for your tribe's survival whenever it happens. Querying your surroundings, or other humans for this information might have a large impact.

In that sense, it makes perfect sense that we "can't stop seeking novel and potentially interesting information" on these sites. Of course the way some of them are designed to be addicting doesn't help. But it illustrates why it's hard (or impossible) to quit doing this activity in it's entirety.

Maybe we shouldn't strive to quit searching for information, but make sure we have a satisfactory information scavenging activity as our go-to? I don't know what that would look like in practice, but the first thing that pops up in my mind is something like having a list of topics that seem interesting, and that you actively seek out information on, where you partially investigate some of the forks in the road.

Then there's the problem of being too exhausted to do something actively, which might need another solution entirely of course.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n5qtj89QE Sadly I don't remember the timestamp of Jordan Peterson's statement saying humans are information foragers, but intuitively it holds up.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #157

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>all I have to do is come back every hour You don't see coming back to HN every hour as a problem?

You missed the point. Try to keep up with everything on Reddit or Facebook or Instagram or Twitter if you follow enough people. You can’t. It is impossible. It is designed to be impossible in order to be addictive. HN it is not only possible, as you can wait a whole hour without any relevant update in posts. In the other sites soft reload of the feed after 1 second will change the posts. But answering your question,…

Lucky you are so unaffected. I suspect however that HN is addictive for quite a few people here, even doing the behaviors as you describe.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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That's me, and probably everyone here and everyone who calls themselves human.

I highly recommend the book 4000 Weeks by Oliver Burkeman.

The main point is that yes, these sites and activities are terrible and addictive, but let's face it, we partly desire to enter their gates and escape the notion that we are limited beings, in time and energy, with pending important tasks.

Procrastinating is an emotional issue, not a planning issue. On the one hand, it relieves us from the anxiety of the pending task, and on the other hand, wasting hours is a subtle and psychological way to make it seem like we have plenty of time (that's why we "allow" ourselves to waste it), until one day it is too late and the deception has caught up with us.

Facing an important task is the difficult thing to do because it reminds us of our finitude. That's why we do it now, because the clock is ticking and it's now or never. We are doing the right thing, but it's the disturbing thing too. I think that important things always have mixed feelings intertwined.

Sorry for my English, it's not my mother language.

All the best in this fight.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #43

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I spend on average[1] 4+ hours a day here, reddit or 4chan. I wish I had spent the time on other pursuits that I have consistently found more enjoyable and rewarding. 4chan in particular usually leaves me feeling some subtle mixture of mentally nauseous and despondent, although I laugh a lot and find interesting things I don't elsewhere. My over-browsing habit is absolutely an unhealthy and compulsive behavior. I'm 3…

As somebody who found it far easier to give up nicotine than 4chan, I empathize.

It's incredible. I was dependent on prescription stimulants to be functional and I managed to give those up. But 4chan? I've tried 4 times and made it to a month, max.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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For the last few weeks I have been successfully blocking time wasters via DNS using nextdns.io. The nice thing about this is that you can't get around it by altering anything that you are doing on your computer other than changing DNS settings. For example if you are using a browser extension you could have switched to a different browser. Perhaps because I am independent/rebellious by nature it is helpful that there…

> to locally remove some sites via an /etc/hosts entry

+1 for this. It helped me a lot to reduce usage. I can now go for weeks without checking news sites, and I must say my mental health has been much better for it. The need for information consumption is still there, but I started reading books and papers, not blogs and news articles.

To get the /etc/hosts block going on your machine, follow these steps:

1. run: `sudo vim /etc/hosts` and press `i` to enter insert mode

2. add a line with `127.0.0.1 domain.com` for each website you want to block, e.g

   127.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com
   127.0.0.1 hckrnews.com
   127.0.0.1 twitter.com
   127.0.0.1 www.bbc.com
   127.0.0.1 bbc.com
3. ESC + :wq (write and quit)

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long focused work was probably normalized since at least the advent of warfare and civilization. Maybe not across the board.

That's a very short duration evolutionarily speaking. We're talking maybe 10K years...we exist as humans how long - a million years?

2 since fire

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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Man Wow! I did not get a chance to read the whole thing carefully (read the first bit properly and skimmed the rest) but man that is exactly the " "blog" post I've wanted to write since so long. It pains me to not be able to send advice with a straight face. Three of the rare things that have been kinda helpful and consistent (ie. not in a motivational bursts way) has been: seeing a social worker and getting diagnose…

Yeah I was diagnosed with ADHD this year and this read like a very clear summary of my symptoms, how I feel about those symptoms and various strategies I've tried. The point about the "new todo-app effect" is very real, and so I have now accepted that no productivity system will work long term and instead try to enjoy switching to new systems every few months

The end-state is when you write your own todo app.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #97

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I agree. I think part of it is I feel like I actually might miss out on learning something interesting/career improving if I stop reading HN whereas to me the other platforms are more pure entertainment. I find it’s generally harder to do something in moderation than to give up cold turkey and when you’re worried you might miss something important if you stop all together, cold turkey isn’t really an option.

Also discussing things with people who like discussing things is like the best way to learn and internalize things. And HN has a lot of people who like discussing and actually read what you say and pokes holes at things you miss, it is like having someone review your thoughts for free.

I want to build a community with the breadth of topics of Reddit, the communication skills of HN, and the non-nonsense rules of StackOverflow: some levity would be ok, but the goal is serious conversation, not karma.

I hate how reddit's top comments are always off-topic attempts to be funny.

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