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Post by fatnoah »

jupp0r wrote: post #136
fatnoah wrote: post #131

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>I figured, when my kids were a certain age, that if I took that route, they'd ALWAYS get around whatever control I put in front of them My son is 14, and when my wife proposed blocks and access control, I made this very point. Even if we were able to perfectly lock down our home and his phone, we can't control every other place he can access the Internet. So, we also are in a talk about it, occasionally check on wha…

You should still do some blocking to make sure he learns how to circumvent them. Those are valuable skills to have later in life, I still profit from the lessons I learned circumventing high school internet restrictions.

I'm confident he already has those skills. When he was in fourth grade, my wife and I were called into a meeting with the (private) school Principal because my son had "hacked all of the tablets used for class so kids could play games on them."

As it turns out, he merely figured out that flipping the Wi-Fi Off switch killed the network connection on the chrome-based tablets, which makes it easy to get to the chrome dino jumping game.

I was disappointed that he disrupted class, but equally impressed by his resourcefulness.

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Post by jsiepkes »

hda111 wrote: post #79
rbanffy wrote: post #73

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Watching the Apple employee come to the office to repair a glued together MacBook Pro can have an extremely high entertainment value.

The newer MacBooks have easy repairable battery and connectors.

Easy is probably an overstatement. iFixit describes it as:

> Battery replacements are reasonably well prioritized, if not exactly easy.

Overall it gets a 4 out of 10 [1]

[1] https://www.ifixit.com/News/54122/macbook-pro-2021-teardown

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Post by dwaite »

derefr wrote: post #167
dwaite wrote: post #143

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> So why not macOS backups in iCloud? If anything, you'd expect it to be the other way around—in iOS devices, you/apps can't litter your homedir with random garbage, while in macOS you can. So it's more useful to back up macOS. This is somewhat the reason why no full macOS backup to the cloud. iOS naturally normalizes the content due to its use of iTunes Store content (apps, movies, television shows, books, music). O…

> On macOS, you can't necessarily just ignore apps and say you'll download from the store - not only can you move applications around, you can delete parts of them and _many_ devices have apps which were not downloaded from the store. Sure, but they're by-and-large the same apps. You can delete parts, but the parts that are there will inevitably be parts someone else also uploaded before. Apps are a highly backend de…

> Apps are a highly backend de-dup-able kind of data.

AFAIK Apple's backup systems do not de-dup data. Backup data is encrypted and that key never touches the data center.

Instead, they:

1. de-dup data at the local application layer, such as sharing a common link to an image for photo albums along with the encryption key.

2. de-dup the environment by scripting the reinstallation from their controlled sources (stable CDN links to immutable/integrity protected packages with privilege-reduced installation)

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by dwaite »

derefr wrote: post #167
dwaite wrote: post #143

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> So why not macOS backups in iCloud? If anything, you'd expect it to be the other way around—in iOS devices, you/apps can't litter your homedir with random garbage, while in macOS you can. So it's more useful to back up macOS. This is somewhat the reason why no full macOS backup to the cloud. iOS naturally normalizes the content due to its use of iTunes Store content (apps, movies, television shows, books, music). O…

> On macOS, you can't necessarily just ignore apps and say you'll download from the store - not only can you move applications around, you can delete parts of them and _many_ devices have apps which were not downloaded from the store. Sure, but they're by-and-large the same apps. You can delete parts, but the parts that are there will inevitably be parts someone else also uploaded before. Apps are a highly backend de…

> As such, couldn't Apple just treat .app bundles (and a few other bundle types, e.g. .framework, .kext, .plugin, etc.) specially for purposes of iCloud backup, by e.g. content-hashing all the files in each bundle, shoving those files into an object store keyed by content hash (i.e. a Content-Addressable Store), CDN-mirroring that CAS, and then saving the .app bundle in your backup as a BOM for reconstructing the bundle from the CAS CDN?

Many macOS apps are not sandboxed. Even apps which have native iOS ports litter crap all over the macOS filesystem. Of course, the primary offender is apps which have their own always-running autoupdater services.

My money Apple will eventually do a devteam-bound overlay filesystem for apps which have not adopted sandboxing.

> Keep in mind, Apple have never promised E2E encryption for iCloud backups, only "encryption in flight" and "encryption at rest." (See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202303). And even then, that's never included an implied encryption of your applications, only of "your data" (since, as you say, the apps are being turned into symbolic references to ITMS CDN objects.)

I don't know if Apple wants to have more caveats to their privacy story at this point.

I suspect the best system would be the hash-encrypt-hash of Freenet, at which point the privacy leak would be in the downloading/leasing of blocks of identified material - e.g. if someone was upset about a particular app being pirated they could still court-order ask apple for information on which devices were backing that object up.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mlyle wrote: post #283
mixmastamyk wrote: post #237

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I can only affect my kingdom, what others do is mostly not my concern. Reminds me of the corporate garbage “food” products most people consume. I speak out but not going to steal their doritos.

You're the dude who spoke of the need to "reign" in teachers and advocated for restrictive whitelists.

I did and would do it again.

These are exactly the population that should be protected. If you wanted to give them agency, which I support, let them manage their own whitelists instead of throwing up hands in defeat.

The future is already here, trends are not reversing:

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-11-09/column-tra...

We can teach them to protect themselves, pretend the problem doesn't exist, or say "aww shucks, all the cool people are being violated."

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Post by CRConrad »

motohagiography wrote: post #231
vineyardmike wrote: post #190

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> the shift to enterprise suggests they're out of ideas Pretty sure its just the way to profit off of all types of users, keep cash flow coming and grow the business. When their app store faces anti-trust, and everyone already has an iphone and the next igadget is 5 years away, how do you generate growth?

> When their app store faces anti-trust, and everyone already has an iphone and the next igadget is 5 years away, how do you generate growth? I'd suggest this is the definition of being out of ideas, as the way they grew last time was they invented the iPhone, and then the iPod, and then the Airbook, Apple Watch, and AirPods. Then there was the mini tracking device to help you believe every other product wasn't alrea…

> they invented the iPhone, and then the iPod

Did you mean the iPad? Because the iPod came years before the iPhone.

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