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Ask HN: How much equity should an early employee get?

#1
I have a friend who has been offered a position at a tech startup. He will be a software engineer. There are already more than 5 employees (including CEO, etc.), but less than 10.

Besides a salary, he has been offered around .2% of the total shares, vesting over 4 years.

Is that about the right amount? My gut feeling is that it is too low.

I'm wondering what "similarly early" employees have been offered at other startups. Examples would be welcome.

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#2
Have they raised a seed?

If not at least a few to several percent. If yes maybe 1-3 percent.

Profitable? Product market fit? Will the stock fit the requirements for Qualified Small Business Stock? This makes a huge tax difference. Early-excercise and 83(b)? Market rate salary or under market? Note market has 50% increased for startups the past year.

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If they are getting a salary, that's probably right. The general rule is the first hire gets about 1% and it goes gown from there. But, the range for 1-10 employees is about 1-0.1%. It doesn't sound like much, but think about it this way. 0.1 percent, when the company goes IPO at a 10 billion market cap is probably 40-50 million dollars.

If you aren't getting a salary, but are working, you're a co-founder and the equity should be higher.

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If they are getting a salary, that's probably right. The general rule is the first hire gets about 1% and it goes gown from there. But, the range for 1-10 employees is about 1-0.1%. It doesn't sound like much, but think about it this way. 0.1 percent, when the company goes IPO at a 10 billion market cap is probably 40-50 million dollars. If you aren't getting a salary, but are working, you're a co-founder and the equ…

Isn't there going to be a lot of further dilution between when a startup hires its 10th employee and when it goes public at $10B? Getting 0.1% to begin with is going to be a lot smaller when the money comes in.

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If they are getting a salary, that's probably right. The general rule is the first hire gets about 1% and it goes gown from there. But, the range for 1-10 employees is about 1-0.1%. It doesn't sound like much, but think about it this way. 0.1 percent, when the company goes IPO at a 10 billion market cap is probably 40-50 million dollars. If you aren't getting a salary, but are working, you're a co-founder and the equ…

How much is the company worth today? That will tell you what the percentage points are worth.

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post #2

Have they raised a seed? If not at least a few to several percent. If yes maybe 1-3 percent. Profitable? Product market fit? Will the stock fit the requirements for Qualified Small Business Stock? This makes a huge tax difference. Early-excercise and 83(b)? Market rate salary or under market? Note market has 50% increased for startups the past year.

Thanks for the feedback.

Can you quantify "a few to several" percent?

Thanks for the questions... answers below.

Raised a seed? Yes.

Profitable? He hasn't asked yet, but it seems that it should be profitable soon.

Product market fit? Good.

Tax stuff? We don't know right now. Anyway, we just want a ballpark comparison to what early employees have gotten at other companies.

Salary? Slightly under market rate.

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#10

If they are getting a salary, that's probably right. The general rule is the first hire gets about 1% and it goes gown from there. But, the range for 1-10 employees is about 1-0.1%. It doesn't sound like much, but think about it this way. 0.1 percent, when the company goes IPO at a 10 billion market cap is probably 40-50 million dollars. If you aren't getting a salary, but are working, you're a co-founder and the equ…

.1% of $10 billion is $10 million. His share would be .2%, so $20 million. But that's not factoring in any potential dilution.
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