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There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#2
Many of these things are basically standard practice nowadays thanks to cross-site tracking and this is just one of the many companies that checks all the (modern shitty-company) boxes.

It's good that they are exposed and people discuss them in order to (hopefully) reach the politicians, but none of this is surprising at all.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#3
> The parking-lot attendant, he said, “let me off with a warning that I wouldn’t be so lucky next time.”

So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? Sounds like an empty threat to me.

Edit:

Should have read more before commenting, later in the article:

> customers “also have the option of entering their license plate number into one of four kiosks as a means of validating their parking.”

So it's just a difference of convenience, much ado about nothing.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#4
I'm glad to see this framing. Reading the provisions identified in the article, you could easily react by saying "well, that's normal." Of course a parking app would ask for your vehicle's make/model and for your credit card information. But it is a cost, and the unrestrained use of that information is a further cost.

And that's before you get into "need[ing] to monitor people’s unrelated web browsing and links they click" ostensibly in order to "understand how customers are coming to Metropolis" (emphasis added).

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#5
The worst offender I've seen is Xfinity/Comcast. Recently cancelled service, never got a notice and multiple incorrect bills after canceling. Anytime I would talk you customer service, they would always say... "If you want to see your correct bill, then you have to download the app."

I continually would have to tell them that I'm not downloading their damn app and that they are big enough that they can have the correct information on their website.

Joe Biden and the Democrats decided to give large ISPs an additional 65 billion dollars with the Infrastructure Plan shortly after this incident.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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post #3

> The parking-lot attendant, he said, “let me off with a warning that I wouldn’t be so lucky next time.” So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? Sounds like an empty threat to me. Edit: Should have read more before commenting, later in the article: > customers “also have the option of entering their license plate number into one of four kiosks as a means of validating their…

>So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away?

yeah? AFAIK if you want to shop at an amazon go store, you need mobile app and a registered amazon account. We're also getting there at other places because some establishments/jurisdictions are requiring proof of vaccination (ie. signed QR code).

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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post #8
post #3

> The parking-lot attendant, he said, “let me off with a warning that I wouldn’t be so lucky next time.” So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? Sounds like an empty threat to me. Edit: Should have read more before commenting, later in the article: > customers “also have the option of entering their license plate number into one of four kiosks as a means of validating their…

>So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? yeah? AFAIK if you want to shop at an amazon go store, you need mobile app and a registered amazon account. We're also getting there at other places because some establishments/jurisdictions are requiring proof of vaccination (ie. signed QR code).

You can print the QR code at your local library. The onus is still there, but it's on the business. On the other hand, I've been 'checked' in a few places but nobody has a QR scanner, they just look at my name on the card and my ID

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#10
I don't install apps to be a customer. Most apps are spyware that collect tons of data on you, despite Apple's marketing claims.

I think I am the only customer at my gym that uses a physical fob.

Push back. Say "no, sorry, I can't install apps". Or use a dumbphone for a month per year.

They do this because they can get away with it.

Make them bring you a printed menu.

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