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Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by genezeta »

grepfru_it wrote: post #51
hectorm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Effectively this is done as a POC, don't expect any security on a machine running Windows 2000 nowadays. Regarding legality, I hope that Microsoft doesn't claim any rights, since the Windows 2000 image has been published in WinWorld for years without issues.

Careful with your claims. What is the supply chain of that win2k iso? You could be compromised before you even begin. Just because it is past EOL doesn’t mean you chuck all security best practices out the window. “Oh well it’s end of life, might as well store passwords in plaintext” Microsoft still owns copyright on Win2k, so you could be met with a cease and desist or you could be liable for infringement.

I'd guess that the "don't expect any security" comment above meant exactly that. Not that you should forgo security, but that you should expect this to provide no security at all.

Some other comments mention browsing with IE5. You should expect that to provide no security either.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by djbusby »

racecar789 wrote: post #62

Did anyone frequently run into ntoskrnl errors that prevented Windows 2000 from booting? I ran into that error every six months but to be fair a number of the incidents happened after a power failure with no UPS.

Was it the IDE reg tweak to fix it? (Search mergeide.reg or something). That was a common issue when hardware swapped.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by hectorm »

grepfru_it wrote: post #51
hectorm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Effectively this is done as a POC, don't expect any security on a machine running Windows 2000 nowadays. Regarding legality, I hope that Microsoft doesn't claim any rights, since the Windows 2000 image has been published in WinWorld for years without issues.

Careful with your claims. What is the supply chain of that win2k iso? You could be compromised before you even begin. Just because it is past EOL doesn’t mean you chuck all security best practices out the window. “Oh well it’s end of life, might as well store passwords in plaintext” Microsoft still owns copyright on Win2k, so you could be met with a cease and desist or you could be liable for infringement.

The ISO is downloaded from WinWorld, which is a website dedicated to archiving old software, it's certainly community maintained but at least gets some scrutiny. I also searched the checksum and it matches with other sources, but as there is no longer an official Microsoft source you can never be entirely sure.

I've done my best to confirm the legitimacy but if anyone has an original CD it would be awesome if they could confirm it.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by iforgotpassword »

xxpor wrote: post #54
argsv wrote: post #23

I just ran this on a Fedora machine and connected to Windows using rdesktop. It works and it's amazing. I like it. The Internet will surely be confused today with a surge of traffic from Internet Explorer 5. Incidentally, google.com still loads and allows searching; bing.com does not load.

What're the most recent tls features IE5 supports? Does it even work with non-sha1 certs?

Google looks at your user agent and doesn't redirect to https if it's an old browser.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by chrisseaton »

qsort wrote: post #36
mysterydip wrote: post #25

Windows 2000 was my favorite version of the OS. I kept it running far longer than I should reasonably have. Thanks for giving me another reason to fire it up!

I completely agree. People fondly remember XP, but Windows 2000 was peak Windows. It almost looks like a real operating system :)

Why do you think Windows isn’t a real OS? It successfully powers I’d guess hundreds of millions of devices.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by speedgoose »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #66
xxpor wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What're the most recent tls features IE5 supports? Does it even work with non-sha1 certs?

Google looks at your user agent and doesn't redirect to https if it's an old browser.

Isn't this a security vulnerability?

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by Narretz »

speedgoose wrote: post #68
iforgotpassword wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google looks at your user agent and doesn't redirect to https if it's an old browser.

Isn't this a security vulnerability?

For who? For Google? Or for the client? The server's security shouldn't be dependent on https

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by iforgotpassword »

Crontab wrote: post #27
tiernano wrote: post #6

Someone posted that 2k was the last nt edition without bloat... I think that was wrong (plus comment seems to have been deleted). 2k3, 2k8, 2k8r2, 2k12, 2k12r2, 2016 and 2019 all have no bloat or random crap... 2022 is mostly the same.... And comes with (chrome) edge too... Since the xp days I have always skipped the home/pro/workstation editions of windows and used server... Gave more features I needed, like hyper v…

I was always a fan of NT4, personally speaking.

Me too. While I think 2k was peak when it comes to a usable, lean desktop os, to me, NT4 was the first Windows NT that was "complete" and usable, the "we're done" milestone. Can't find the proper expression for it really, but it just has a special place in my IT heart.
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