Please anyone, someone, does anyone think that these are all the same company? Same culture? Same quality of software?
Apple releasing 10.4
Apple releasing 10.6
Apple releasing 10.11
Apple releasing 10.15
Apple isn’t patching all the security holes in older versions of macOS
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Re: Apple isn’t patching all the security holes in older versions of macOS
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To be fair El Capitan has been replaced by Sierra which is compatible with machines that are more than 10 years old.
All I know is that they followed the default and ended up being unable to even open the app store to update their OS. Whatever OS support is available for whatever hardware, Apple effectively orphaned that machine.
I needed to upgrade my Mom's MacBook (a 2017, bad keyboard and all) to Catalina to make sure she could still get updates for Office 2016.
This has since been replaced by an M1 Air and Office 2021, but the migration was easier this way. Old versions of macOS are listed at this URL, which is how I got a link for the latest 10.15 installer.
Re: Apple isn’t patching all the security holes in older versions of macOS
#83I know one of the reasons for this (as an outsider). Over the years, the security patch codebase included other bugs that had been fixed in later code. Apple ios particularly when they are getting ready to launch a new iphone fork their code and try to keep security patches in sync, but by doing so "unfix" a lot of bugs. This has been an observed pattern for 6 or 7 major upgrades now. The bottom line, software used by tens of millions of people is hard.
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#84I'll say it: macOS is in decline.
It used to be we would pay a premium for slightly less good hardware, just to run the macOS.
Now, we buy hardware that is world-leading, and sponsor people to try to get Linux running on it so we can flee the mess that is macOS.
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#87Please anyone, someone, does anyone think that these are all the same company? Same culture? Same quality of software? Apple releasing 10.4 Apple releasing 10.6 Apple releasing 10.11 Apple releasing 10.15
The amount of phone-home in the macOS these days is also absolutely astounding. My new mbp16 has at least 4 different processes talking to Apple
Maps servers even with location services disabled, and if you press F8 it sends the machine's unchangeable hardware serial number to Apple (linking it to your IP) without consent. (FWIW it also says on screen that it is doing this when you press F8.)
Re: Apple isn’t patching all the security holes in older versions of macOS
#88I'm still running Mojave. Never found the time to upgrade. Ridiculous, I know. Anyone else in the same boat?
I wish I could run Mojave or Catalina on my brand new 16". It came with Monterey, which is ugly. Whoever thought light grey text on dark grey background was a good or reasonable UI choice should be fired.
It's the Windows XP Home of operating systems.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most notably, OSX dropped support for all nVidia GPUs from Mojave onwards Not those shipped with Macs. The GeForce kexts to support the NVIDIA GPU gens that Apple shipped, Fermi and Kepler, are still present even on Monterey.
Apparently they will not be in the stable release of Monterey though it is still possible to patch the drivers in. https://github.com/chris1111/Geforce-Kepler-patcher Fermi was never supported beyond High Sierra IIRC.
Hm, your own link shows that NVDAGF100Hal.kext is present though, so something for Fermi is _probably_ possible.
TIL that support for NV cards on Monterey is gone, it definitely was there in the betas.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lack of drivers, or the newer OS may require a specific instruction set or feature not present on older hardware.
But why don't they just keep the drivers etc. from the previous version? This doesn't seem to be a problem for Linux.
macOS sees quite a lot of change under the hood from release to release that can make bringing unmodified drivers forward impractical. For example, in recent releases there’s been a push to move drivers away from the kernel and into userspace, which is naturally going to break old drivers. 32-bit support was also dropped not too long ago, which broke old 32-bit drivers.