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I wish there would be more talk about the other side of Covid: the people suffering of various long term post-covid problems. I think this will be the high price that Sweden really will have to pay in the long run.
Time will tell.
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The problem is that it's not black/white. Close all roads to normal traffic and you'll have near-zero mortality from traffic accidents. But does that make it a smart policy?
no. but at least you have a framework to reason about the tradeoffs. with covid its all been a bunch of speculation and shouting
Covid is even harder to measure. One Example: You shut down elementary schools to prevent kids from getting infected; how many were pushed back into broken homes from the only safe space they had? How many will have long-term pain from learning , nutrition, physical abuse, mental health?
Most policy can be reduced to "Better safe than sorry" which completely ignores the direct and indirect costs of any action.
I don't think it is interesting to hear "the architect" evaluate his own work. Tegnell has a lot of critics but they don't get the same day of light. I can't refer to an English source but Ivar Arpi's interview with Björn Olsen recently is a good balance to this self-gratulatory message from Tegnell.
Ivar Arpi is a very opinionated far-right columnist. So that will be very biased in the the other direction. I guess expect the truth to be somewhere in between. But (like proven with other far-right strategies) also don't expect it to be exactly mid-day.
Although I don't agree he is far right. He is right.
In any case, Björn Olsen is certainly an expert and his viewpoints are a healthy balance to what Tegnell says
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Sweden is more comparable to Germany in population structure. Especially Norway and Finland are completely different. Have a look here (tone is satirical) for a comparison of Sweden's and Germany's graphs: https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2021/11/12/wear-a-mask-and... Germany's numbers are exploding right now. In the U.S. you could also compare New York and Vermont. New York was more like Sweden (not by choice, but…
The graph is unusable considering the context of the different countries. You simply can not compare the two considering how little attention Sweden actually pays to Covid in general and how little testing facilities there actually are in comparison to Germany.
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"A source said" isn't the same as data. People are saying a thousand accusatory things. Let's quit spreading the gossip.
The source was correct and corroborated by the other two sources I gave, The British Medical Journal and the UK Government.
One thing that’s become clear to me is that looking at any two places at one point in time, comparing that day’s stats, and using that to judge/justify the Covid policies of each on that day, is naive. We may even be in a “Moneyball” situation where we don’t know the most critical stat to measure.
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Sweden is more comparable to Germany in population structure. Especially Norway and Finland are completely different. Have a look here (tone is satirical) for a comparison of Sweden's and Germany's graphs: https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2021/11/12/wear-a-mask-and... Germany's numbers are exploding right now. In the U.S. you could also compare New York and Vermont. New York was more like Sweden (not by choice, but…
The graph is unusable considering the context of the different countries. You simply can not compare the two considering how little attention Sweden actually pays to Covid in general and how little testing facilities there actually are in comparison to Germany.
And this is very important.
There are several of these articles trying to redeem Sweden's choices. Here are the results versus their similar neighbors in deaths per million people[1]: Sweden 1478 Denmark 474 Finland 219 Norway 173 They're 3 to 8 times worse. They now do compare favorably to Portugal for example at 1796. When did Portugal have the huge spike in deaths that propelled it in front of Sweden? When it decided not to do lockdowns, eve…
I’m honestly surprised people still exist who support lockdowns.
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Best guess I've seen on hit this has to do with how much time people are spending inside due to weather. See the screenshot of covid positivity rates at two different dates. https://mobile.twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1457438899580456... The screenshot is from the NYTimes covid tracker. The guess was that more people were inside in the south the summer when it was hot, and they were running air conditioning. Now that…
Not only that (rate of interaction spent outdoors), also an effect of UV was observed. Not massive but significant. I cannot find the original material that informed me, but I see there was a research effort last year, described at https://bren.ucsb.edu/news/seasonal-uv-light-exposure-affect... > The authors then used a dataset of meteorological conditions with daily resolution ... analyz[ing] how four variables — UV…
Cool!
Wonder if anyone has tried to figure out what part of that is related to the virus transmitting less efficiently in UV light (disinfecting effect) and what part is related to peoples skin producing vitamin D when exposed to sunlight?
Personally I have tried the Norwegian cod liver oil (yuck) to get my necessary vitamin D.
>“Now, we’re two years into this and Sweden doesn’t really stand out. We’re not the best, but we’re definitely not the worst. That’s what I hear now: how much good did all these draconian [measures] do for anybody?” Whatever your stance on the merits of lockdowns, I think this is a question that very much needs asking and analysing objectively. Sadly I suspect that too many political careers are at stake across the b…
Objectivity seems to be the biggest causality of COVID... The vast majority of people have "picked a side" and will use any data they deem to be advantage to their side to highlight how they were right, and ignore any data that disproves their side. This is true for both the "science" class and the political class. "Trust the science" has become a "Trust the science that agrees with my worldview, ignore the rest" For…