Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
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Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#2Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#3There are several of these articles trying to redeem Sweden's choices. Here are the results versus their similar neighbors in deaths per million people[1]:
Sweden 1478
Denmark 474
Finland 219
Norway 173
They're 3 to 8 times worse. They now do compare favorably to Portugal for example at 1796. When did Portugal have the huge spike in deaths that propelled it in front of Sweden? When it decided not to do lockdowns, even though the numbers were horrible, to "save Christmas". 13k people or 3/4 of the total COVID deaths in Portugal happened from that decision alone. That other places also made horrible decisions doesn't help justify Sweden's.
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#4Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#5Halting an economy to the point of economic depression levels (early on) for the sake of people who were already vulnerable (look at the US, lockdowns but people still left the house cause duh...groceries and jobs) was a dumb idea. The government was trying to play god with it's citizens and they couldn't even police simple things like "stay at home" orders. So what was the point in even shutting down everything and giving people free money to the point of absurd inflation?
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#6The bureaucrats that have been responsible for the questionable approach Sweden has followed are currently fighting like a cornered cat to avoid any and all accountability. So this 'message' fits the narrative well.
The prime minister has stepped down and left the reigns to someone else this week. The responsible for the health authorities has started his pension a week or two ago. Both conveniently around the same time that the Swedish investigative COVID commission has released a scathing report on the handling of the epidemic.
The state epidemiologist, Dr. Tengele, sorry, Dr. Tegnell, is still there but currently in full-on "blame others"-mode, as long as the buck doesn't stop with him. It's the regions, or the elder care facilities, or the immigrants, or anyone as long as it isn't him.
It's makes for a immensely sad and sorry sight, but not unexpected in a country with no opposition voices, neither in politics nor media. But that's nothing new under the sun as it was already known in 1971, and nothing has changed since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Totalitarians
Additionally, Sweden has changed it's guidance since last week so people that have been vaccinated twice should no longer get COVID tests, so please take any and all official numbers with a serious grain of salt and consider them as 'absolute minimum' values
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#7We are moving from Lock Downs to Lock Outs. The center did not hold and Society will break into two.
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#8Halting an economy to the point of economic depression levels (early on) for the sake of people who were already vulnerable (look at the US, lockdowns but people still left the house cause duh...groceries and jobs) was a dumb idea. The government was trying to play god with it's citizens and they couldn't even police simple things like "stay at home" orders. So what was the point in even shutting down everything and…
The only ones really getting money in Sweden have been the major companies, to the benefit of the shareholders.
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#9There are several of these articles trying to redeem Sweden's choices. Here are the results versus their similar neighbors in deaths per million people[1]: Sweden 1478 Denmark 474 Finland 219 Norway 173 They're 3 to 8 times worse. They now do compare favorably to Portugal for example at 1796. When did Portugal have the huge spike in deaths that propelled it in front of Sweden? When it decided not to do lockdowns, eve…
You're citing known COVID deaths, I think, while the epidemiologist points out in the article that a better metric is excess mortality:
>Sweden had one of the lower excess mortality levels in Europe
Presumably, excess mortality includes the effects of overloaded hospitals, delayed medical care, lockdown-related depression, and undiagnosed COVID, which are hard to measure any other way, and which seem logically much higher under lockdown.
Re: Sweden no longer stands out in pandemic, says architect of ‘no lockdown’ policy
#10Halting an economy to the point of economic depression levels (early on) for the sake of people who were already vulnerable (look at the US, lockdowns but people still left the house cause duh...groceries and jobs) was a dumb idea. The government was trying to play god with it's citizens and they couldn't even police simple things like "stay at home" orders. So what was the point in even shutting down everything and…
The Government is playing god in protecting it citizens from death?
Not sure if I understand this reasoning, the government has to protect its citizens, that is the number one task.