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Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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As a german I am ashamed that a german court will be abused for litigation as a means to compete, costing me both in taxes and in the higher price I have to pay for products in the end. And people wonder why the economy is stagnating in the western countries. All our money goes to taxes and lawyers.

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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post #2

As a german I am ashamed that a german court will be abused for litigation as a means to compete, costing me both in taxes and in the higher price I have to pay for products in the end. And people wonder why the economy is stagnating in the western countries. All our money goes to taxes and lawyers.

You could say the exact same thing and just exchange "German" for "American."

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical devices as opposed to basing a decision with such far-reaching consequences on some printed pictures?! Can somebody who has studied the law explain to me the benefit of allowing plaintiffs to have command over which court they want to litigate in? It feels self-defeating.

After reading this I'm also surprised how the author of this article can possibly assess that, "there’s also Dusseldorf, Germany, where judges are proving themselves quick [and] competent" after this incident that demonstrate just how patently (!) incompetent they really are. But I guess this is just testimony to the fact that actual evidence and reason are tertiary in a justice system that can be defeated by cherry-picking courts that are friendly to whatever the litigator's cause. How can the public trust in a judiciary framework that functions with this total lack of precision and attention to detail.

On a different note, and I'm sure nobody really cares but since Düsseldorf is my hometown I'd like to point out that it is spelled with an umlaut. If for some reason you can't do that, how about spelling it Duesseldorf :) That's how it's done in German if you can't use the umlaut for any reason (url's etc.). Is it common to just leave out diacritics when dealing with foreign vocabulary in the english language ?

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical dev…

At least there are no dragons in Dusseldorf.

http://humor.beecy.net/misc/world/

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical dev…

It is understood that the judge involved in the German case made his ruling based on a physical examination of the two tablets, rather than relying Apple's paper submission alone. -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14542200

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical dev…

It is understood that the judge involved in the German case made his ruling based on a physical examination of the two tablets, rather than relying Apple's paper submission alone. -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14542200

Thanks. Considering another hearing was scheduled after the court was informed that evidence was misrepresented I was assuming that it played a significant role in the courts decision. Maybe it's just a formality then...

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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As a german I am ashamed that a german court will be abused for litigation as a means to compete, costing me both in taxes and in the higher price I have to pay for products in the end. And people wonder why the economy is stagnating in the western countries. All our money goes to taxes and lawyers.

It could be argued that trying the case in Dusseldorf is actually bringing money into the economy. Apple and Samsung are paying the lawyers. I suspect though their main legal counsel isn't in Germany, they are probably working with local lawyers as well. That's a big bill coming to a local firm.

On top of that you've got the hotels, restaurants, etc. etc. that are all making some money on the executives who are travelling to Dusseldorf.

Dusseldorf is making use of fixed cost assets (the courts and Judges salaries).

It's a shame that the lawyers are getting so much money while companies fight over stupid lawsuits like this, but I don't think it is costing local tax payers.

Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical dev…

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Re: Why Apple Went To Dusseldorf

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'Embarrassing revelation' indeed. How in the world is it possible that a German court can impose a EU-wide ban in a trial that contained what is basically fabricated evidence? How did this slip past Samsung's lawyers ( I remember this whole thing blowing up at the hands of the tech media, no? ) Didn't the court do its own, independent, impartial research into the matter? Why didn't the court compare some physical dev…

> Is it common to just leave out diacritics when dealing with foreign vocabulary in the english language ?

Just leaving out the diacritics is for when English is feeling generous and doesn't feel like mangling or misspelling the words any further.

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