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Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

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Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

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The crucial question is, is the text any good? My bias tells me it's next to impossible (but not actually impossible) for a text from 1987 to be 2021-beginner friendly, especially in a field like mathematics.

Maybe just open it and have a look?

The text covers a lot of ground very quickly omitting a lot of "pure math" details.

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because while the field of mathematics has probably not changed, the field of didactics has changed drastically, and the student expectations in 1980s and 2021 will be also drastically different.

Has it actually improved though? Every study I've seen says students are worse at maths today than 30 years ago, so to me it doesn't look like all that pedagogy research improved things. If things actually got better we should have strong evidence supporting that. Images are prettier, sure, but do students who study using modern books actually understand the material better after the course is done?

I think attention spans have shortened (which is arguably devastating for maths), and the materials considered "state of the art in modern pedagogy" are the ones that take that into account in ways that a book from 1987 does not.

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#23

The crucial question is, is the text any good? My bias tells me it's next to impossible (but not actually impossible) for a text from 1987 to be 2021-beginner friendly, especially in a field like mathematics.

dont judge a math book by its date. also i found math books by russian or ex-soviet authors to be quite good, esp those by vladimir arnold

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#25
This is a good book. It would be even better if it were typeset in LaTeX.

I wonder if such an effort could be financed from some kind of microgrants. Take old Soviet maths and physics books - they were very good! - translate them into English, possibly with small alterations (e.g. a QR code link to an animation), type them in LaTeX or AMSTeX and release them under a friendly license.

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#26

The crucial question is, is the text any good? My bias tells me it's next to impossible (but not actually impossible) for a text from 1987 to be 2021-beginner friendly, especially in a field like mathematics.

I haven't worked through the book yet but looking at the authors, Yaglom wrote some great Math books and Zeldovich was an absolutely genius in the field of theoretical physics, so it probably is.

As a German living in the Western part, my math teacher would always rant how much better the East German math books were. Math and science education in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc was and still is vastly superior to anything we had or have in the West.

See also this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26849866#26850468

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#27

Are pages 358, 373, 379, 396, 530 misprinted or scanned sloppily?

The book in the updated link [1] does not have the problem that the old link had I think, if you were talking about how for example on page 358 the page had become split so that the rightmost part of the page had been cut off and placed on the left side of the page. I didn’t check the other pages because I’m on mobile, but since page 358 looks good in the new link the others might too. [1]: https://archive.org/detail…

Look closely. The first half of the letter on each line is faded. (I'm the refering to the pages of the book, not the pages of the PDF)

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#28

This is a good book. It would be even better if it were typeset in LaTeX. I wonder if such an effort could be financed from some kind of microgrants. Take old Soviet maths and physics books - they were very good! - translate them into English, possibly with small alterations (e.g. a QR code link to an animation), type them in LaTeX or AMSTeX and release them under a friendly license.

Do you think so? It looks really beautifully typeset to me.

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

#29

This is a good book. It would be even better if it were typeset in LaTeX. I wonder if such an effort could be financed from some kind of microgrants. Take old Soviet maths and physics books - they were very good! - translate them into English, possibly with small alterations (e.g. a QR code link to an animation), type them in LaTeX or AMSTeX and release them under a friendly license.

Wouldn't there be right-holders still around ?

Re: Higher Math for Beginners (1987)

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post #29

This is a good book. It would be even better if it were typeset in LaTeX. I wonder if such an effort could be financed from some kind of microgrants. Take old Soviet maths and physics books - they were very good! - translate them into English, possibly with small alterations (e.g. a QR code link to an animation), type them in LaTeX or AMSTeX and release them under a friendly license.

Wouldn't there be right-holders still around ?

If it was a Western book, definitely, but with books published in the 1980s in the USSR, I am not sure how it works.

The USSR was not a signatory to the Berne convention, so the original rights may be lapsed. Russia joined the Berne convention in the 1990s, but there were some reservations agreed upon that limited the retroactivity.

I think only Russian IP lawyers can answer that question with any precision.

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