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Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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post #6

> An interesting wrinkle about net interest is that most customers don’t contribute much. In much of the U.S., median checking account balances at account creation are only around $3,000 Thats a lot of money not in crypto or stocks. Surprising.

Need to save something for emergencies too.

Not to mention everyday expenses. You can't pay your rent or phone bill with stocks or cryptocurrency.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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> An interesting wrinkle about net interest is that most customers don’t contribute much. In much of the U.S., median checking account balances at account creation are only around $3,000 Thats a lot of money not in crypto or stocks. Surprising.

I don't think most Americans understand stocks. I definitely don't. Even more so for crypto-currency.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

#13
post #5

Besides the gig economy I heard that a lot of retail businesses like Walmart now pay employees by debit card instead of check. So instead of a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks some bank is taking 1.x% in interchange, and if the bank happens to be owned by Walmart well who would notice.

> a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks You have to pay to deposit your pay in the US?

If it is a physical check (cheque), then often, yes.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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post #5

Besides the gig economy I heard that a lot of retail businesses like Walmart now pay employees by debit card instead of check. So instead of a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks some bank is taking 1.x% in interchange, and if the bank happens to be owned by Walmart well who would notice.

> a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks You have to pay to deposit your pay in the US?

yes, if you don't have a bank account.

if you are not living paycheck to paycheck, you can keep the minimum balance in a checking account and then arrange have your paycheck automatically deposited every payday with Direct Deposit. This is free.

Check cashing places give you cash for paper checks. They charge a fee for the service.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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post #5

Besides the gig economy I heard that a lot of retail businesses like Walmart now pay employees by debit card instead of check. So instead of a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks some bank is taking 1.x% in interchange, and if the bank happens to be owned by Walmart well who would notice.

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Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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> An interesting wrinkle about net interest is that most customers don’t contribute much. In much of the U.S., median checking account balances at account creation are only around $3,000 Thats a lot of money not in crypto or stocks. Surprising.

I grew up hearing 6 months expenses liquid cash on hand at all times

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

#17
post #4

Use credit card, it’s the card issuers that are on the hook for fraud. It’ll help you build credit. Use debit when you don’t have the means or credit history.

Absolutely, but there are so many people in the USA that are excluded from the ability to obtain a credit card - even a secured one - that debit cards are a god send to us.

Both Cash App and Venmo sent me debit cards without requiring any ID.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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> An interesting wrinkle about net interest is that most customers don’t contribute much. In much of the U.S., median checking account balances at account creation are only around $3,000 Thats a lot of money not in crypto or stocks. Surprising.

I have exactly $3000 buffer, curious how you eliminate that? Basically for rent, venmo payments to people and credit card payments.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks You have to pay to deposit your pay in the US?

If it is a physical check (cheque), then often, yes.

Often? Aren't check cashing places just for people who have a specific reason to not have a bank account.

Re: Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a check cashing place taking 3% of people's paychecks You have to pay to deposit your pay in the US?

yes, if you don't have a bank account. if you are not living paycheck to paycheck, you can keep the minimum balance in a checking account and then arrange have your paycheck automatically deposited every payday with Direct Deposit. This is free. Check cashing places give you cash for paper checks. They charge a fee for the service.

Just to clarify, many banks have no minimum balance and charge no fee to cash any check. However some may have a harder time opening accounts than others.
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