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Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by rajin444 »

inglor wrote: post #56
kroolik wrote: post #9

There were outages around the same time last year. Somebody in the HN thread commented back then that the employees evaluation and promotion window ends around december/eoy, thus more releases are made. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_services_outages

I would be very interested in any research about code quality with relation to promotion packets. Ideally acamdemic. I am not sure where to look for it

Is there an objective way to measure code quality?

We barely understand the systems we’re writing code for - I don’t see how you could objectively judge the code to manage those systems without fully understanding the systems first.

You could have wave some metrics like number of bugs or test coverage, but I can’t think of any (aforementioned included) that aren’t subject to tons of confounding variables.

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by lostmsu »

michaelt wrote: post #118
tester34 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It’s still less downtime than your own server what makes you think so, actually?

In my experience, it's very easy to achieve high uptime through luck. If I only run a single server, and it has a 10% chance of failing in any given year, I have a 90% chance of achieving 100% uptime in a given year. In my experience it's also very easy to think you've got all your bases covered when actually you haven't. I'm protected against mains power failures by a UPS and a generator - but a UPS switchgear fault…

Do you have some external ping test running continuously? If not, you really have no idea.

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by kixiQu »

kroolik wrote: post #9

There were outages around the same time last year. Somebody in the HN thread commented back then that the employees evaluation and promotion window ends around december/eoy, thus more releases are made. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_services_outages

Far more likely IMO to coincide with trying to get Exciting New Features out before release freezes for some conference or other.

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by yosito »

ulzeraj wrote: post #36

Didn't even noticed. Work doesn't use any GCloud components and personally its been a while since I've degoogled myself. No Google docs, mail or search. Not even the quad 8 nameservers.

Not sure why you got downvoted. I'm also a degoogled European and didn't even notice.

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by shuckles »

NikxDa wrote: post #117
roenxi wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The line of logic this thread has followed so far suggests there will be a reason for a Google outage every month of the year.

Couldn‘t have phrased it any better.

I believe the term of art is “just so story.”

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by stackbutterflow »

1ibsq wrote: post #54
chrisseaton wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What tech company spends millions on training anyone?

The other comments already explained it, but I'm wondering how you haven't come across this 'saying' before. It's so overused and also cheesy in my opinion.

People are born every day. Every day tens of thousands of people will hear about hacker news, the pyramids, Darth Vader being someone's father, for the first time.

Re: Google Outage in Europe

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Post by exikyut »

iso1210 wrote: post #120
exikyut wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Google is currently processing multiple terabits of traffic per second using several billion dollars' worth of distributed infrastructure.)

Actually it's not, and that's the problem

FWIW I vaguely recall some kind of website that showed approximate bandwidth use... it was something like a cross between statcounter and alexa except for network stats and the like.

I think it purported Google to be hovering around 15Gbps. That sounded humongously wrong, like I'd expect global traffic Google to at least be a couple terabits, right?

I'd be very curious if there's a way to actually ballpark the number. Or maybe it is in fact possible to implement services that reliably track this sort of thing, and my futile searches earlier just weren't finding them...

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