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Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

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post #30

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Pretty sure you can edit most office documents in google docs via the browser without issue. Only additional step would be uploading them to Google Drive.

Or if they're Word docs, in MS Web Office

Or Android Office running on desktop

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if they're Word docs, in MS Web Office

That's even worse, now you dependent on their "cloud" The key is to not be depending on their format, and be open and ABLE to move away from dependency X whenever you want

I thought the key was to make a load of cash and/or help people with their lawyery needs

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

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Also a lawyer here, I think the biggest hurdle is MS Word. MS word is the defacto IDE of the law world. We spend most of our time in Word. The drafting of documents won't be a problem with libre office. You can send a PDF to the client. But working with other lawyers/parties could be a challenge. I am not certain how Libreoffice could handle a 500 page memo being worked by 50+ people including thousands of track chan…

Basically all of these things are teething problems. The early adopters have problems, the problems get solved, then they're solved for everybody. What's going to be interesting is how attorney client privilege interacts with the third party doctrine and proprietary systems increasingly moving your documents to The Cloud, often without telling you or making it obvious that it's happening. That could drive early adopt…

>The early adopters have problems

> LibreOffice Initial release: 25 January 2011; 10 years ago

don't think it's getting solved mated

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

#45

Also a lawyer here, I think the biggest hurdle is MS Word. MS word is the defacto IDE of the law world. We spend most of our time in Word. The drafting of documents won't be a problem with libre office. You can send a PDF to the client. But working with other lawyers/parties could be a challenge. I am not certain how Libreoffice could handle a 500 page memo being worked by 50+ people including thousands of track chan…

Basically all of these things are teething problems. The early adopters have problems, the problems get solved, then they're solved for everybody. What's going to be interesting is how attorney client privilege interacts with the third party doctrine and proprietary systems increasingly moving your documents to The Cloud, often without telling you or making it obvious that it's happening. That could drive early adopt…

“What's going to be interesting is how attorney client privilege interacts with the third party doctrine”

Not really. If I take a file to Kinkos to get copied, it’s still privileged.

Contrary to the thinking of many technophiles, for almost every “How is the law going to deal with X technology?” there are useful analogies that were figured out decades ago.

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

#46
post #22

Also a lawyer here, I think the biggest hurdle is MS Word. MS word is the defacto IDE of the law world. We spend most of our time in Word. The drafting of documents won't be a problem with libre office. You can send a PDF to the client. But working with other lawyers/parties could be a challenge. I am not certain how Libreoffice could handle a 500 page memo being worked by 50+ people including thousands of track chan…

I wonder if it would be legal to offer Windows Machines as a Service. So that you connect via Remote Desktop and pay by usage ... might violate MS' TOS though.

Paperspace does offer that: https://workstream.paperspace.com/

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically all of these things are teething problems. The early adopters have problems, the problems get solved, then they're solved for everybody. What's going to be interesting is how attorney client privilege interacts with the third party doctrine and proprietary systems increasingly moving your documents to The Cloud, often without telling you or making it obvious that it's happening. That could drive early adopt…

>The early adopters have problems > LibreOffice Initial release: 25 January 2011; 10 years ago don't think it's getting solved mated

Different populations have different problems. When was the first time it was adopted by a major law firm?

Example: The OP cares about "redlines" because lawyers use that all the time and most others don't.

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

#48

Also a lawyer here, I think the biggest hurdle is MS Word. MS word is the defacto IDE of the law world. We spend most of our time in Word. The drafting of documents won't be a problem with libre office. You can send a PDF to the client. But working with other lawyers/parties could be a challenge. I am not certain how Libreoffice could handle a 500 page memo being worked by 50+ people including thousands of track chan…

I know a group of lawyers who still operate using type writers and dictaphones.

War legend: peeps in big retail chain printed Excel sheets on A3 pages to edit them with a pencil to later patch the original one.

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

#49
post #16

Also a lawyer here, I think the biggest hurdle is MS Word. MS word is the defacto IDE of the law world. We spend most of our time in Word. The drafting of documents won't be a problem with libre office. You can send a PDF to the client. But working with other lawyers/parties could be a challenge. I am not certain how Libreoffice could handle a 500 page memo being worked by 50+ people including thousands of track chan…

if you are editing a 500 page document you should use other software for writing, perhaps use latex, and put the document in git. but i get that there are lots of lawyers who don’t want to learn any new tools. for all the other stuff you mentioned you have solutions for linux that work and conferencing software has clients these days for linux. you can use diff or visual diff tools for comparisons.

I have written several 500 page documents in libreoffice both as sole author and as one of two or three primary contributors. It works quite well because it is easy to define styles and virtually never apply direct formatting. There would no doubt need to be a plugin to force this behavior in a large group. Multiple Indices and Tables of Contents were also well supported. More advanced tooling can still be used since it is an xml based file format (like MS office at this point I believe). For example I could write a complex regex to create different rules for applying an index without too much fuss. On most or all of those docs I was collaborating with others (editors etc) using track changes. It worked fine for us. But that was always under a dozen people in the group. There are various simple odt to git solutions available.

Now I am not necessarily advocating this path, but we were philosophically opinionated on this point in our groups, so we were happy to do it.

Latex is not excellent for authoring, although I understand it can be a necessary evil for documents with a lot of formulas or other difficult to format constructs. There is a lot to be said for the simplicity of a WYSIWYG editor when writing, so you can focus cleanly on the content you are trying to write.

Re: Running a Law Firm on Linux

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post #7

IIRC, UNIX started at Bell Labs as a legal document processing system. However, this was just an excuse for Ritchie to work on a game he liked on Multics

Wasn't it Ken Thompson who did the game thing? I mean, I know they worked it all out together but I thought it was Ken who wanted to do the Space Travel game... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Travel_(video_game)

That's what I was thinking as well. There's also an interview somewhere on YouTube with Ken Thompson talking about this game and he goes off on a bit of a tangent talking about it. Really fun to hear him talk about it.
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