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Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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If you have such a hard time not reading reddit or hackernews maybe the correct conclusion is not that you're 'wasting' time but that there's something enjoyable about so called low quality or idle activities and that they're normal part of a healthy life. I think it's deeply ironic that people will judge videogames on that basis but then to proceed to gamify and min-max their entire life because of this rat race men…

If I could restrict it to just 1 hour a day I'd be happy but its really ruining my career and social life.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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Great post. I can relate; I've struggled with it for years. But last year I quit Twitter and Reddit for good. I've quit commenting on news websites. HN is the only place I time-waste anymore. And at least HN is obliquely related to what I do for a living and to my side projects, and it's frequently educational. I'd say I learn something new here that's actually useful to my work or gives me new ideas almost every time I come on.

I got to the point where most other things online - like the diet coke in your analogy - just became unpalatable. One day it just happened. The thought of going on Twitter sounded gross and contrary to how I view myself. I unfollowed everything. On the rare occasions I have the impulse to check it now, I only have to stop for an instant and remind myself: It's a cesspool. And I don't want to be part of it. This is not who I want to be.

In particular, I think, it was the anger and meaninglessness of random people's uninformed opinions, and what it did to me psychologically. Idiots yelling at idiots all day, all night. I was brought up to always argue for what I thought was right, but the rage machine finally just overloaded my circuits. The urge to jump into that and "fix the world" with my oh-so-special opinion just evaporated. The feeling I have toward Twitter now is finally a pleasant numbness, and a vague sadness that it exists.

I also remembered a compliment an ex-girlfriend paid me once, long before the days of time-wasting on the internet, when I was just a kid who never watched TV. She said I never wasted any motion in anything I did. I think about that, and it reminds me that efficiency is more central to my personality than any bad habits that have edged their way in since.

One final thing about side projects. It's hard to sit down at a blank page, and you'll look for almost any way to procrastinate. But once you view it as a problem or something that needs to be fixed, you'll spend all night on it without hesitation. I've found that the best way to motivate myself is to start showing it early to people, and have an audience in mind. Wanting to show friends your progress has a wonderful effect, and lets you know if you're on the right track.

tl;dr, I think you're onto something about associating the good habits with your identity, and the bad ones with something anathema to your being. Don't be too hard on yourself; the human brain was not made for this environment.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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This is nuts. Hacker News keeps me thinking about smart people's opinions about everything that's going on today. He wishes he was playing chess instead, a fun game, but one that is more a competition of raw processing power and memorization than anything having to do with the human experience.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #7

If you have such a hard time not reading reddit or hackernews maybe the correct conclusion is not that you're 'wasting' time but that there's something enjoyable about so called low quality or idle activities and that they're normal part of a healthy life. I think it's deeply ironic that people will judge videogames on that basis but then to proceed to gamify and min-max their entire life because of this rat race men…

What you want to do is entirely up to you. It doesn't have to be meaningful in anyone else's eyes. But if it matters to you that you get X done, and you never get it done because it was usually easier in the moment to do Y instead, then you'll end up regretting that. In that case it's worth figuring that out in advance and trying to fix it.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #21
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If you have such a hard time not reading reddit or hackernews maybe the correct conclusion is not that you're 'wasting' time but that there's something enjoyable about so called low quality or idle activities and that they're normal part of a healthy life. I think it's deeply ironic that people will judge videogames on that basis but then to proceed to gamify and min-max their entire life because of this rat race men…

If I could restrict it to just 1 hour a day I'd be happy but its really ruining my career and social life.

Read digital minimalism, install pihole on your network, use Tailscale for DNS to point it there, implement blocks on the offending websites and categories. Make your smart phone dumb so you are limited to what you can do, and get an offline hobby.

Be easy on yourself, you will relapse, and realize that nearly everything on a digital platform can be shut off and ignored with the click (or long press) of a button.

Set up your environment for success, and make the path of least resistance align with your values.

You say you want one hour a day, but I’d scale back to nothing for a while and slowly re-introduce it. Or make it less convenient to do the activity.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #24
post #7

If you have such a hard time not reading reddit or hackernews maybe the correct conclusion is not that you're 'wasting' time but that there's something enjoyable about so called low quality or idle activities and that they're normal part of a healthy life. I think it's deeply ironic that people will judge videogames on that basis but then to proceed to gamify and min-max their entire life because of this rat race men…

What you want to do is entirely up to you. It doesn't have to be meaningful in anyone else's eyes. But if it matters to you that you get X done, and you never get it done because it was usually easier in the moment to do Y instead, then you'll end up regretting that. In that case it's worth figuring that out in advance and trying to fix it.

In that case it's still not a matter or judging Y as a waste of time or low value activity, it's just that committing to doing things to get X done a better choice

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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If you have such a hard time not reading reddit or hackernews maybe the correct conclusion is not that you're 'wasting' time but that there's something enjoyable about so called low quality or idle activities and that they're normal part of a healthy life. I think it's deeply ironic that people will judge videogames on that basis but then to proceed to gamify and min-max their entire life because of this rat race men…

Many of the highest impact decisions in my life, I made because of things I learned reading HN and reddit. And I've even been able to promote my own projects and other projects I like with some success. It's hard to tell whether I'm wasting this time or whether I'm learning about the next Tesla or Bitcoin or deep learning before it's big. Or learning the skills to communicate effectively and promote my work to a big community. I can't separate those things. If I amortize the benefits over the time spent, I think the ROI is pretty good even though the time is large.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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If I could restrict it to just 1 hour a day I'd be happy but its really ruining my career and social life.

Read digital minimalism, install pihole on your network, use Tailscale for DNS to point it there, implement blocks on the offending websites and categories. Make your smart phone dumb so you are limited to what you can do, and get an offline hobby. Be easy on yourself, you will relapse, and realize that nearly everything on a digital platform can be shut off and ignored with the click (or long press) of a button. Set…

This kind of thing works to begin with at least.. when that browser plugin in chrome stops me opening HN after 1hour it interrupts the impulse to browse, but then I can alway just open Firefox.. Limits outside ones control are best.. it's amazing how uninteresting youtube is when your data is rate limited.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #28
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read digital minimalism, install pihole on your network, use Tailscale for DNS to point it there, implement blocks on the offending websites and categories. Make your smart phone dumb so you are limited to what you can do, and get an offline hobby. Be easy on yourself, you will relapse, and realize that nearly everything on a digital platform can be shut off and ignored with the click (or long press) of a button. Set…

This kind of thing works to begin with at least.. when that browser plugin in chrome stops me opening HN after 1hour it interrupts the impulse to browse, but then I can alway just open Firefox.. Limits outside ones control are best.. it's amazing how uninteresting youtube is when your data is rate limited.

Yeah, giving someone else the keys or password for locking down devices is weird but ideal if it’s a real problem.

Re: Scattered thoughts on why I waste my own time

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post #28
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read digital minimalism, install pihole on your network, use Tailscale for DNS to point it there, implement blocks on the offending websites and categories. Make your smart phone dumb so you are limited to what you can do, and get an offline hobby. Be easy on yourself, you will relapse, and realize that nearly everything on a digital platform can be shut off and ignored with the click (or long press) of a button. Set…

This kind of thing works to begin with at least.. when that browser plugin in chrome stops me opening HN after 1hour it interrupts the impulse to browse, but then I can alway just open Firefox.. Limits outside ones control are best.. it's amazing how uninteresting youtube is when your data is rate limited.

Yeah I was going to say I used to have a pihole, worked great for a few weeks until you start disabling it all the time.

I wish there were 3G only SIM plans. My prepaid goes slow but only after I hit my limit.

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