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American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by kube-system »

Spooky23 wrote: post #246
kube-system wrote: post #245

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Even if a smart lock used ROT13 encryption, the easiest way to defeat it is still probably a mechanical attack. The state of mechanical security is a whole new level of weak.

The previous owners of my house dropped several hundred dollars on a Medeco lock. Keys are a pain in the ass to replace, and there is literally a set of 3 windows within reach in the porch that could be opened trivially. The biggest feature of any lock is breaking into a locked house is a felony for the perp.

And if you ever accidentally lock yourself out, it's going to be a PITA. There's one good think about Kwiksets -- you don't always need to call a locksmith if you lock yourself out :)

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Post by boomboomsubban »

cheeze wrote: post #247
kupopuffs wrote: post #234

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Yeah, now I hate two people instead of one!

Who cares? Dude got free drinks for wearing a lanyard. This isn't some lesson in morality.

The actual act doesn't bother me much, it is the justifying it by saying someone else did it. Imagine if they said "and at the end of the night I was plastered and drove home. But don't harsh me, the Smirnoff lady did it too."

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

recursive wrote: post #250
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #248

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I can dislike dishonesty even when I'm not the victim.

Is it dishonest to wear a lanyard with a logo? Is it dishonest to give free stuff to a representative from a company with the hopes that you'll get more stars on your review?

Yes, wearing a lanyard knowing that people will believe you to be with that company is dishonest, and doing so knowing that it will get you free stuff is fraud. And while we're at it, yes, bribing a company rep with free stuff in hopes of gaining an unfair advantage is fraud as well.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by ficklepickle »

Spooky23 wrote: post #246
kube-system wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if a smart lock used ROT13 encryption, the easiest way to defeat it is still probably a mechanical attack. The state of mechanical security is a whole new level of weak.

The previous owners of my house dropped several hundred dollars on a Medeco lock. Keys are a pain in the ass to replace, and there is literally a set of 3 windows within reach in the porch that could be opened trivially. The biggest feature of any lock is breaking into a locked house is a felony for the perp.

My boss once bought a really expensive lock with a magnetic key. He was going on about how it was unpickable. When the key was forgotten one time, we found it could be opened by sticking scissors in and turning.

I'm not sure what the moral is. Your comment reminded me of this story.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by b20000 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #240
b20000 wrote: post #180

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the job of a university is to teach CS, not a specific programming language. javascript is just a language like any other, there is nothing particularly good about it. it became popular because a scripting language was needed in browsers and because every idiot out there wants to become a web developer because they think they will be zuckerburg in 6 months. indeed, there are endless programming bootcamps parasiting o…

Anti-intellectualism and refusal to learn any other language isn't going to get you a good job or much interesting experience. You can get better in one language by learning and using several other different languages (the more languages and the more different, the better), which expands the scope of what you know how to do in ANY language. And if you refuse to learn more than one language, that limits yourself to ta…

Any programmer who permanently sticks to only one language and has "no interest in learning yet another programming language" simply isn't a good programmer, no matter what their only language is.

You have not given any reasonable proof for this. If this were true, just to give you one example, linux kernel programmers would be bad programmers.

I used to use Perl for web development, but quit web development years ago. I use primarily one or two programming languages and have zero interest in learning other languages. And that's OK. I've brought multiple succesful products to market. I have chosen what I want to do and have no time or energy to follow fads.

My comments have nothing to do with anti-intellectualism.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by [deleted] »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #252
cheeze wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares? Dude got free drinks for wearing a lanyard. This isn't some lesson in morality.

The actual act doesn't bother me much, it is the justifying it by saying someone else did it. Imagine if they said "and at the end of the night I was plastered and drove home. But don't harsh me, the Smirnoff lady did it too."

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Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by [deleted] »

pc86 wrote: post #226
Ichthypresbyter wrote: post #203

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>the CIA hacks NL companies and the Dutch RIVM hacks American ones and they share information/metadata The AIVD is the Dutch intelligence service, the RIVM is the public health institute. I don't think even the most out-there of Dutch conspiracy theorists have accused the RIVM of hacking American companies on behalf of the CIA...

Yeah but if you want to fly under the radar...

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Post by buzzwords »

sandworm101 wrote: post #153
qwertox wrote: post #103

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According to Google Translate: > Booking has never encountered espionage before. The company isn't really looking for it either. As long as it doesn't cause any hindrance, it won't cost you any money. The unspoken consensus among specialists within the company is: we suspect that intelligence services are watching, but as long as we don't see them, we don't worry. What should make me believe that they don't have the…

>> black hat hackers How are foreign intelligence services not black hats? They are stealing data in order to use it for any number of non-nice things. Not selling the data on the dark web doesn't bleach their hats.

This line of thinking comes from buying into the narrative that America (and west) is by definition good and so their activities are fine no matter what. They hack and steal data, we are ok with it. It's extremely dangerous.

Re: American spy hacked Booking.com, company stayed silent

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Post by hbrav »

consp wrote: post #9

Interesting part from the Dutch version of the article: Booking is nooit eerder op spionage gestuit. Het bedrijf is er ook niet echt naar op zoek. Zolang die geen hinder oplevert, kost het geen geld. De onuitgesproken consensus onder specialisten binnen het bedrijf is: we vermoeden dat inlichtingendiensten meekijken, maar zolang we ze niet zien, maken we ons niet druk. Which roughly translates to We are not looking f…

If they become aware of espionage, are they not still obliged to report it under article 33 of the GDPR?

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-33-gdpr/

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