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The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by lazzurs »

dagw wrote: post #8
atemerev wrote: post #6

“We only deliver to the US and Canada”. OK, will have to stay with my Macbook.

Yea, say what you want about Apple, but they seem to be one of the few tech companies that manage to ship all their products in all their configurations to almost all countries. So many times I read a review for something interesting sounding only to find out that that version isn't sold where I happen to live.

Nope. Here in Ireland where they have major offices not only is there no Apple retail but they only offer the Aluminium versions of Apple Watch. Currently no providers offer eSIM for Apple Watch but that shouldn’t stop me buying a better screen.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by lazzurs »

nrp wrote: post #17
atemerev wrote: post #6

“We only deliver to the US and Canada”. OK, will have to stay with my Macbook.

We’re actively building the infrastructure to launch in additional countries. It’s a challenging logistical environment at the moment, but we very much built and certified the product to be broadly available, and we are reminded of the interest in that daily!

I know of many people waiting for that before hitting the order button.

If you even offered the different keyboard types right now we can organise our own shipping and tax :)

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by thereddaikon »

judge2020 wrote: post #24
maltalex wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.

Hackintoshing is also getting easier (save for amazing battery life) with OpenCore, perhaps a small subset end up doing that.

It will get easier right up until x86 MacOS is no longer updated and then will immediately become a thing of the past.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by judge2020 »

thereddaikon wrote: post #33
judge2020 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hackintoshing is also getting easier (save for amazing battery life) with OpenCore, perhaps a small subset end up doing that.

It will get easier right up until x86 MacOS is no longer updated and then will immediately become a thing of the past.

Monterey supports the 2013 Mac Pro and 2014 Mac Mini, so if we can expect only 8 years of actual OS support, we'll probably see 8 more years of OS updates for stuff like the 2020 Intel iMac and Intel Macbook Air & Pro. That's a long while before this becomes a possibility.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212551

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by spinningslate »

hnaccount141 wrote: post #25
marcodiego wrote: post #10

From https://frame.work/blog/linux-on-the-framework-laptop : “ There has been immense interest in this configuration, with it outselling pre-configured systems with Windows 10 by a wide margin.” There is a market. And it is currently under-served.

It'd be interesting to see how much of the interest in the no-OS option is due to Linux vs people choosing to buy a Windows key cheaper elsewhere.

I'd like to see that data too. I'd be very surprised if that windows scenario is anything other than noise level.

Though, for completeness, I'd replace Linux with *nix - I'd guess there'll be some BSD users in there too.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by spicybright »

d3nj4l wrote: post #20
kall wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be very interesting. Maybe I could finally fulfill my dream of a portable system that can raise the display to eye level while keeping the keyboard at an ergonomic level. I‘m surprised no one else seems to want this. Imagine if you could clip your screen onto the headrest in front of you. Wouldn‘t that be a huge improvement?

Imagine if you could clip your screen onto the headrest in front of you That's just a VR headset!

Not really.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by [deleted] »

lazzurs wrote: post #31
dagw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, say what you want about Apple, but they seem to be one of the few tech companies that manage to ship all their products in all their configurations to almost all countries. So many times I read a review for something interesting sounding only to find out that that version isn't sold where I happen to live.

Nope. Here in Ireland where they have major offices not only is there no Apple retail but they only offer the Aluminium versions of Apple Watch. Currently no providers offer eSIM for Apple Watch but that shouldn’t stop me buying a better screen.

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Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by bigyellow »

Causality1 wrote: post #27

I'm itching for the day Framework starts offering a touchpad with physical mouse buttons.

Same, really not a fan of the dumbed-down Apple look laptops are heading in. Look to old school Thinkpads if you want "Linux-friendly" inspiration.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by prophesi »

maltalex wrote: post #23
marcodiego wrote: post #10

From https://frame.work/blog/linux-on-the-framework-laptop : “ There has been immense interest in this configuration, with it outselling pre-configured systems with Windows 10 by a wide margin.” There is a market. And it is currently under-served.

Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.

Microsoft actually offers Windows 10 for free, with some cosmetic restrictions until you pay for the license.

Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

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Post by LNSY »

I'm left handed and track-pads have never agreed with me.

Other people on this site have recommended the MNT Reform to me: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform

It seems like a different flavor of an open source laptop that people who want a better keyboard and has the option of a trackball (!!!) instead of the trackpad.

I think the MNT is going to be my next laptop, but the Frame.work is pretty cool.

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