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Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by batman-farts »

Jensson wrote: post #89
romwell wrote: post #86

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As an autistic: no. Lack of social awareness isn't an excuse for rape and abuse jokes. You don't need any social awareness to figure out that you shouldn't do that. The concept of "jokes at someone else's expense = bad" isn't hard to grasp for an analytical mind. Autism is not stupidity. You are not doing "autists" any favor by trying to excuse this behavior. (Also, for some reason , autistic women aren't seen joking…

> The concept of "jokes at someone else's expense = bad" isn't hard to grasp for an analytical mind. Rape jokes aren't at anyone's expense. A joke at someone's expense would be making fun of someone, a rape joke is just something like "9 out of 10 enjoys gang rape" etc, that isn't what people mean when they say "joke at someone else's expense". So to me your post just shows that you lack the social awareness to under…

Rape jokes normalize sexual violence, and create an intimidating atmosphere for anyone who may potentially be a victim, or may unfortunately have already suffered. To me, they are also a clear marker of someone who never matured enough to express their sexuality in a healthy fashion.

SA may have had a lot of that shit back in the day (and may still in some corners, I’ve never spent much time in FYAD), but it shouldn’t take long at all for anyone to notice that the community there has evolved well past that kind of exclusionary behavior.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by Jensson »

rubyn00bie wrote: post #107
Jensson wrote: post #99

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Accusing your spouse for domestic abuse to prevent them from seeing their kids is like toxic divorce 101. It doesn't cost anything, carries no risk and in a divorce court you don't have to prove much, rather your spouse would have to prove that he didn't abuse you. This is different from criminal court where getting a guilty verdict is very hard. If he was found guilty in a criminal court it would be very different.

You’re providing no evidence. This is typical of HN so I’m not surprised. The hostility towards women here is tangible and gross. Im glad your anecdata lets you sleep at night but you’re still an MRA asshole.

You got any evidence that almost every domestic abuse accusation is actually credible? I see no reason why domestic abuse would be any more common than domestic abuse accusations. Both are made to hurt your partner, both create significant risk to yourself etc. So from my perspective the one who needs to provide evidence here is you, not me.

Of course there is no such evidence, it is really hard to prove that an accusation is false. But false accusations carry little risks and carries some rewards, so there is no reason to believe they are rare.

Edit: This survey says 8% of the entire population has been falsely accused. If you say it is a badly done survey, please find a better survey. If you aren't asking the victims about these things then you wont get any real numbers. Basing this on what women say is like basing the rate of domestic abuse against women based on how many men say they abused their wife.

http://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/survey-over-20-million...

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by davidgerard »

javajosh wrote: post #87
kortilla wrote: post #80

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> This comes off as naive. I saw the domestic abuse allegations again him and decided to read up. Indeed, reading allegations and treating that as research does come off as naive. > Yeah, they're jokes, but when I stopped being a child that stopped being funny, you can still see him making these jokes int interviews about his situation. It’s cool that your sense of humor about that changed during adolescence. That’s…

Society is really confused about right and wrong. Wendy Williams (a talk show host) asked her audience if one of her guests, who wanted a baby, should trick her boyfriend into fathering a child. The audience laughed and said yes -- Wendy laughed too, and agreed. This is called paternity fraud, because once pregnant the father will have no say in the disposition of the child, AND will be on the hook for child support.…

At this point in the thread, it seems clear you're talking about personal issues and not about anything to do with Richard Kyanka or the detailed allegations, police reports, etc.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by onion2k »

javajosh wrote: post #65
extortionist wrote: post #12

He leaves behind a complicated legacy. It's important to note that credible allegations of domestic abuse lead him to sell SA in the past year, and this can't be set aside. At the same time, SA's influence on the modern internet can't be understated. The 'image macro' of early SA (maybe created by Lowtax himself, from what Fragmaster says in his video in the link) is the direct ancestor of today's common meme image--…

>credible allegations I truly wish that allegations of any and every sort were considered not credible by the general public. Domestic abuse is a real problem, but false allegation of domestic abuse is a real problem, too. Indeed, if a person wants to harm another without lifting a finger, the simplest thing to do is claim "He hurt me" or "I'm afraid of him" and you'll get every cop, judge, attorney, a legion of your…

Domestic abuse is a real problem, but false allegation of domestic abuse is a real problem

There are significantly fewer false allegations than real ones. I'd be amazed if more than 1% were proven to be false, and it's likely far less than that.

To assume that the alleged victim is lying would be incredibly harmful; many more people would refuse to make an accusation if they weren't going to be believed.

Your opinion on this is completely wrong.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by AmericanChopper »

romwell wrote: post #94
AmericanChopper wrote: post #81

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The problem with metoo is that the solution it envisioned for the problem, was to attempt to undermine the justice portion of the justice system as much as it could, and to create as many avenues for extrajudicial punishment as it possibly could. The entirely inevitable outcome of this is that these new systems were put to use by people to enact personal agendas, in any venue where interpersonal politics was relevant…

#metoo was literally about bringing the attention to the scale of the problem and raising awareness, and normalize talking about abuse, so that it wouldn't continue in silence. The court of public opinion has existed before and after #metoo. Let's not pretend that #metoo invented it. If twenty people were to go public and say that Justin Bieber beat each of them with a crowbar, Justin Bieber would have some 'splainin…

Society never made an exception for sexual abuse at all. If I accused Justin Bieber of beating me with a crowbar, but somehow I was unable to provide any evidence at all that I was ever even injured, people wouldn’t take me seriously. If I successfully started a rumour that Biebs was a serial crowbar assaulter, it’s possible that it might get some media traction, but publishing rumours like that (at least used to be) the exclusive domain of tabloid media.

However, if somebody makes an accusation of sexual assault, it’s possible for that to become a national headline without even any evidence that the two people have ever met.

I mean, the slogan of metoo was “believe women”, which is the exact opposite of “presume innocence”. It applied pressure to police to arrest without evidence, for prosecutors to prosecute without evidence, for juries to convict without evidence, for employers to fire without evidence, and for society to exclude without evidence. The core objective of the movement was to fundamentally undermine the most important principle of our system of justice.

Now that’s a particularly indefensible proposition when you actually think about it, so most people don’t try to. They just attempt some variation of your comment, where you attempt to deny the plainly obvious fact that this is what it was about.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by eptcyka »

Jensson wrote: post #76
hacksnewer wrote: post #68

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This comes off as naive. I saw the domestic abuse allegations again him and decided to read up. He had multiple allegations from both exes. He lightly joked about rape, domestic abuse etc. Yeah, they're jokes, but when I stopped being a child that stopped being funny, you can still see him making these jokes int interviews about his situation. You've got people on HN today that believe that metoo is just made up. Tho…

> Yeah, they're jokes, but when I stopped being a child that stopped being funny Autists often don't pick up on that and continues to make unfunny or cringe jokes year after year. That makes them prime targets for false accusations, since the world is full of people like you who will assume they are guilty just because they are socially unaware.

I fail to see how the parent is insinuating that they believe making distasteful jokes implies guilt.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by anon9001 »

sweetbitter wrote: post #3
curuinor wrote: post #2

Someone on twitter was talking about the Franz Ferdinand insane ripples of the man's decision to ban anime pornography on his site: 1. He bans it 2. One "moot" was then currently showing around his futaba channel clone "4chan" and not getting many bites 3. The pornography-obsessed people decide to abscond to 4chan en masse, determining the culture of /b/ and all that 4. This leads to the proliferation of fascism and…

>Who wouldn't disown 4chan if it was created from their actions? Coincidentally, the current owner of 4chan[0] happens to be the original owner of futaba channel (2ch), so the answer to that question is one Hiroyuki Nishimura. Also, I am sure that a significant portion of imageboard users feel satisfied by the chaos they have sown; they aren't disgusted by it, they really lust for it, and that is how they have always…

> Also, I am sure that a significant portion of imageboard users feel satisfied by the chaos they have sown; they aren't disgusted by it, they really lust for it, and that is how they have always been.

/b/tard here. Can confirm.

Re: Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died

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Post by javajosh »

claudiawerner wrote: post #88
javajosh wrote: post #65

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>credible allegations I truly wish that allegations of any and every sort were considered not credible by the general public. Domestic abuse is a real problem, but false allegation of domestic abuse is a real problem, too. Indeed, if a person wants to harm another without lifting a finger, the simplest thing to do is claim "He hurt me" or "I'm afraid of him" and you'll get every cop, judge, attorney, a legion of your…

>This isn't against women. >"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned," and yet here we are The fact that these same two statements are in the same paragraph seems sarcastic, if not ironic.

Humans in general get angry, lie, are violent. Power corrupts humans. Corruption is more likely if you're angry. These things hold true for all humans: men, women, adults, children, young, old, rich, poor, black, white, etc.

Yet women, as a group, have been exempted from these truths by the state and society on any matter relating to domestic violence. This is an unearned and unjust exemption that must end.

This is not against women because I make the same objection to any other [group, subject] exemptions. The "hell hath no fury" quote is merely to remind people that women are people who feel people things, who rage, have ambition, can be cruel, and so on.

It is on the basis of this exemption that society has given every woman a gun aimed at the head of every man she's ever met, trigger pulled with a tweet.

(It occurs to me that this exemption is ironically dehumanizing to women. It puts them on a pedestal of purity, and in so doing separates them from humanity by ignoring the reality of their human foibles. Women are gross poopy stinky hateful angry greedy clever loving fearing homo-sapiens, just like everyone else.)

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