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Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in the Windows Phone days, they'd send you a phone for developing an app. I wrote a crappy calculator app during a CS class and got a free phone out of it. I spent more time doing the app submission than I did writing the app. They didn't care what it was. Similarly Blackberry had a similar program a little while later where I just ported the same app and got a Playbook tablet. It was fun as a poor college kid,…

I remember this period. I remember a few dozen devs I knew just submitted dumb/garbage apps and grabbed the bounty. Don't think it helped the Windows Phone ecosystem at all because instead of a few decent apps, you now had to wade through hundreds of terrible apps and sometimes you'd get lucky and find a decent one.

> because instead of a few decent apps, you now had to wade through hundreds of terrible apps and sometimes you'd get lucky and find a decent one

Sounds like a perfect copy of Google Play.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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It's the first result for me on the web: https://www.microsoft.com/en-NZ/search/shop?q=firefox

And using the Store app on Windows 11, Firefox is prominently featured as the number 1 result when searching: https://imgur.com/a/vyoWQZd

Edit: Seems like Firefox has only been available in the store for a day or two, so I guess this was just the search algorithm catching up and re-ranking. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-the-fir...

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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As an user, I look at the search results to evaluate the quality of an app store. Microsoft needs to change this problem. Many trash and scam apps are on Microsoft Store for years. User and even developer do not want to download and push their apps in a place like this.

They must have fixed it quick, the Browser from Moz is #1 and that guide is #2.

I'm not sure that Microsoft did anything. According to the Reddit comments, Firefox was just added to the store a day ago. Sounds like it quickly rose to the top as people started downloading it.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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Or is it? For me, it's the first result. And that's how app stores are supposed to work: once enough users install the app, it skyrockets. AFAIK, Firefox on Windows Store is still pretty new, going from zero to first place shouldn't be instantaneous if rules are fair.

There are "Editor's Pick"s on app stores and they should have certainly featured such a high-profile app.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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As an user, I look at the search results to evaluate the quality of an app store. Microsoft needs to change this problem. Many trash and scam apps are on Microsoft Store for years. User and even developer do not want to download and push their apps in a place like this.

It's seriously embarrassing and terrible. Anybody who uploads a $4.99 "Firefox user guide" to the Microsoft Store should be banned for life before the app even hits prod. Microsoft should require a sufficient barrier to entry so these "developers" can be proactively identified and expelled before they have an opportunity to clog the Store with their detritus. App store cruft like this is one of the most mind-numbingl…

"Guides" aren't even the worst of it. The Microsoft Store has some apps which are outright squatting on the names and logos of real applications, like "Reader for Reading Kindle Ebooks" [1] or "Meeting using Google Meet" [2]. While I haven't investigated, I'm pretty sure they're literally just frames for web apps.

[1]: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/reader-for-reading-kindle-...

[2]: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/meeting-using-google-meet/...

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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As an user, I look at the search results to evaluate the quality of an app store. Microsoft needs to change this problem. Many trash and scam apps are on Microsoft Store for years. User and even developer do not want to download and push their apps in a place like this.

It's fucking sad. This is exactly how the MS Store looked 10 years ago when Windows 8 came out. How has it not changed at all? These assholes don't seem to have a clue why nobody wants to use their store. Maybe someone at Microsoft should actually try using their products. The poor employees have buggy shit dogfooded to them all the time, while I bet all the C-levels and other execs have Apple shit for work and home.

It's kinda good too. It makes the store unviable and thus makes local installations still a very legit requirement. Which leads to less Microsoft control over what you do with your PC, and more user freedom. It also means using your computer without a Microsoft account is still a thing.

If it had really taken off they could be free to block installers like iOS does. Or at least make it difficult to do so like macOS.

Re: Firefox is the 45th result when searching for “Firefox” on Windows Store

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I remember something similar happening to me on Android about 8 years ago. At the time the Firefox Android app just came out but I just couldn't google it. Like absolutely no results at all on the store or Google. I had to use DDG.

Ironically DDG's search results come from... Microsoft :)
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