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Re: Business Essentials

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Post by mlyle »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #203
mlyle wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We, at least, spend a fair bit of time on: - Advertising and dark patterns - What else can be inferred about you from seemingly innocuous information, and potential misuse - Durability of your digital footprint - Security, file types, etc. Education doesn't fix these issues, though. Even well-educated developers would often give up and click 'Allow' on a modal privilege escalation box that pops up repeatedly in resea…

Knowing these thing exist is a great first step, and glad to hear you are helping out. But, it doesn't become a concrete, visceral thing until you inspect a no-script menu while browsing a news site. Or run Little Snitch on a freshly unboxed Mac. Or going to a "white pages" site and see the last four addresses of your family members. Salary info, current whereabouts, criminal history, are a fee away. It's a different…

Yes, but the whole world won't be developers. And many in the know just don't care.

You're talking about a population of 12 to 18 year olds. Even among the most responsible and least-easily influenced of them, social pressures absolutely dwarf any abstract concerns about corporations knowing a bit more about broke-ass you to try and sell you things.

Most of this population will take a short term gain for an uncertain consequence a few minutes later. You're talking about short term gain versus consequences that they may view as inevitable and occurring decades away.

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Post by beermonster »

rsync wrote: post #111
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #8

There’s a few headlines talking about backups - does apple finally have a cloud based time machine replacement? I’d be so excited to see that as a general consumer too.

"There’s a few headlines talking about backups - does apple finally have a cloud based time machine replacement?" Apple doesn't, but we do. You simply do a "dumb" 1:1 mirror to an rsync.net account with 'rsync', which you already have. Then you set up an arbitrary snapshot schedule in your account. rsync.net will then create, and rotate, immutable snapshots of your dataset. [1] The only difference is that our ZFS sna…

Would you say that this is the most time machine-esque way of using your service? I’d imagine using borg (pulled from macports/homebrew) and using MacFUSE to local mount would seem pretty time machine like whilst offering other benefits over rsync such as client side encryption, compression and deduplication (the dedupe might be irrelevant since you’re using zfs)

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Post by rsync »

beermonster wrote: post #212
rsync wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There’s a few headlines talking about backups - does apple finally have a cloud based time machine replacement?" Apple doesn't, but we do. You simply do a "dumb" 1:1 mirror to an rsync.net account with 'rsync', which you already have. Then you set up an arbitrary snapshot schedule in your account. rsync.net will then create, and rotate, immutable snapshots of your dataset. [1] The only difference is that our ZFS sna…

Would you say that this is the most time machine-esque way of using your service? I’d imagine using borg (pulled from macports/homebrew) and using MacFUSE to local mount would seem pretty time machine like whilst offering other benefits over rsync such as client side encryption, compression and deduplication (the dedupe might be irrelevant since you’re using zfs)

Yes, I would say that.

It's also the simplest method - again, just a dumb rsync command that you re-run every day.

If you are using borg you would probably handle the retention and versioning yourself with the borg tool and perhaps set just one or two daily snapshots at rsync.net. These would not be for your backup schema, but rather, for safety in case of mistakes/ransomware/mallory.

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Post by frankfrankfrank »

numbsafari wrote: post #196
vineyardmike wrote: post #190

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> the shift to enterprise suggests they're out of ideas Pretty sure its just the way to profit off of all types of users, keep cash flow coming and grow the business. When their app store faces anti-trust, and everyone already has an iphone and the next igadget is 5 years away, how do you generate growth?

Agreed. They have been leaving a mountain of money on the table by not offering this, or a competitor for Google Workspace.

It could actually be a play for far bigger, the mountain of money that is now largely dominated by Microsoft in ALL establishment corporations and governments. Think of being able to run your whole network and equipment with a mere fraction of the IT and network personnel that it now takes to run a Windows based environment.

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by threeseed »

vineyardmike wrote: post #190
motohagiography wrote: post #132

Smart play to focus on businesses with fewer than 500 employees, as those are the most likely to grow in the next 3-7 years into larger accounts, and they don't have the 12-18mo sales cycle and shennanigans of an enterprise. It's a strategic departure from being a consumer luxury product company, and the shift to enterprise suggests they're out of ideas, but at the rate they're losing consumer growth I'd say they've…

> the shift to enterprise suggests they're out of ideas Pretty sure its just the way to profit off of all types of users, keep cash flow coming and grow the business. When their app store faces anti-trust, and everyone already has an iphone and the next igadget is 5 years away, how do you generate growth?

> When their app store faces anti-trust

They have already faced the courts over the App Store. They won.

> how do you generate growth?

Through new devices eg. Watch, AirPods, AR/VR Headset. And most importantly through Services eg. AppleTV+, News+, Music+

You should look at Apples balance sheet. Far more diversified than most people realise.

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #197
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #153

Sounds like a huge upgrade to Apple Business Manager. Two big complaints here: 1. Apple Business Manager refuses to work in Firefox due to an arbitrary user agent block, and they apparently still haven't fixed this. 2. "If accepted, your existing Apple Business Manager account will be upgraded with additional functionality that cannot be undone." - This is a really good way to ensure we don't try this. What if it cau…

The first thing I thought when I saw that block was wtf, apple? You have non-standard compliant html/css there? Utter disgrace.

It works entirely fine if you set Firefox to lie about the user agent. It's probably one of those cases where someone just didn't want to have to take the 'risk' they had a browser issue with a browser they don't directly support.

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Post by alexchamberlain »

jordanbeiber wrote: post #208
nlh wrote: post #60

So just to make sure I'm reading this correctly (this is not my area of speciality so bear with me): This is Apple-hosted MDM, yes? I took a brief spin through this world on a consulting project a few years ago and I found it SUPER weird that Apple didn't do this already. You had to do this weird dance between Apple Business Manager and the MDM solution (we ended up with SimpleMDM but looked at a bunch). I kept sayin…

Business use is a collateral win for apple. There’s a lot of effort that goes in to support and partner channels for enterprise offerings. Making servers seemed easy enough? Look where that ended up. It’s a completely different business.

Is it? Apple is the go to solution for all media types (photography, film making, design, architecture). The alignment with Adobe products has existed longer than either was cool.

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Post by mappu »

thih9 wrote: post #118

Slightly off topic, check out the HTML code next to the "Onsite repairs" box; the formatting uses strikethrough, but there is a hidden element with "Not" text before each crossed out line. I assume this is for accessibility or copy-paste compatibility; as a result the raw text still reads: > Onsite repairs: Not someday Not next week Not soon ASAP. I find this kind of attention to detail very cool. (Too bad "ASAP" is…

Bootstrap's .visually-hidden (formerly .sr-only) does something similar using clip(): https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/blob/main/scss/mixins/_vis...

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by borski »

numbsafari wrote: post #206

The challenge for Apple is going to be their unwillingness to integrate with others. Business Manager only integrates with MS Azure Active Directory for IAM. The vast majority of small business do not have Azure Active Directory. They either have nothing, or they have Google Workspace. Apple needs to not just launch a competitor for AD. They need to properly support integrated directory services with a broader range…

I suspect integrating with Google is just a v2 feature.

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Post by binaryblitz »

jonathantf2 wrote: post #41

On-site repairs sounds interesting, although their computers are all glued together and every component is soldered to the board so I have no idea how they'll manage that.

Depending on the size of your business, it's easier just to have a few (or even one if you're really small) spare machines for when one breaks or is having issues. Just turn it on, restore from the latest backup and give it to the user. Then send the old one off for repair if needed.
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