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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by BitwiseFool »

LarrySellers wrote: post #69
klipklop wrote: post #16

Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.

Except they considered the change years before Biden was president: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-a... This Trump rally from The Hill, where he tells his followers to get the vaccine that he got, garnered 1.5k likes and 1.3k dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQdxDnQkac Here Trump hints at a 2024 run on the Today show, but it has more likes than dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/w…

I don't think the GP's narrative was that this exclusively happens to the Democrats. Just that it happens way more on the current White House's videos than it did on the last administration's. Plucking examples where Republican videos were downvoted intensely does not refute an argument the OP wasn't making in the first place.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by IceDane »

woah wrote: post #136
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

I know we're not supposed to tell people to RTFA on here... but i feel like i should tell you that they are not removing the dislike button

Maybe you are right and he didn't read the article, but I think his points still stand.

This is a ridiculous decision. When someone puts something into the public space and everyone dislikes it, that should visible to anyone. This is just going to make ridiculous conspiracy videos and other harmful material like racist propaganda seem more legit than it is viewed by the rest of the public.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by tentacleuno »

louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

In reality they have been moving towards this for a while. I've been hit by one of their A/B experiments that turns off the visual ratio bar, so it takes a second to figure out the ratio (if it's bad, I normally skim over the comments).

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by avs733 »

_qbjt wrote: post #101

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>Most YouTube users (and people on the Internet in general) do not conduct themselves respectfully or demonstrate any sort of intellectual curiosity when engaging with these sorts of feedback mechanisms.

You nailed how I feel about this entire conversation. The author of the blog PopeHat summarized it really eloquently:

Stop pretending bad faith is good faith for the purposes of “politeness” or “dialogue.”

https://twitter.com/Popehat

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by closetohome »

nickjj wrote: post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

I use it for the same thing, though most videos seem to fall into one of three categories:

-Millions of views, 99% liked

-Videos without ridiculous view counts, where the like/dislike ratio actually helps

-Brigaded with dislikes

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by austincheney »

From reading the other comments I am clearly in the minority here, but this is absolutely the right way to go. It’s the first and most simple means of destroying echo chamber bombing.

Visibility of voting only reinforces agreement ahead of any independent consideration.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by wolpoli »

> We understand that some of you have used dislikes to help decide whether or not to watch a video–still, we believe this is the right thing to do for our platform, and to help create an inclusive and respectful environment where creators have the opportunity to succeed and feel safe to express themselves.

It's very sad that this is the only instance in the announcement where they mention viewers, and the reasons cited has nothing to do with viewers' interest.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by otrahuevada »

I mean, if a multi-month, google-scale experiment says it helps, it... probably does? But I'd personally like to see more get done to the robot likes/dislikes thing than this.

You know, that thing where a video has 100 views but 150 likes+dislikes? It's simply too annoying to me.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by jarek83 »

How this is useful to people wanting to watch meaningful content? Like many wannabes post football games highlights that just turn out to be some fake content. I can quickly figure that out by seeing 95% dislike ratio. Now I'll be forced to experience it by myself (and watch ads before it of course)
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