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My car died, needing a new engine, so I was forced to get one in October. I usually only buy used, but prices are so inflated it didn't seem worth the premium. Used 2017-2020 Toyota Rav4's with 30-60k miles were the same price as a new 2021 model, if you could get one. I knew it was bad, but I was shocked of how bad it was. I went to multiple mega dealerships with 500-1000 cars that were all spoken for. Most had 0 ne…

I was in the same boat. I usually avoid buying new but used cars are nearly the same price as new (if you can find a dealer that hasn't done ridiculous 'market adjustments'). So we bought new. We had to buy a car that was just off the delivery truck before the dealership had it inspected. The one we'd looked at two days before was long gone and they expected the one we bought to be sold the next day. My neighbor trad…

Why do you think those market adjustments are ridiculous? Isn't that how supply and demand will adjust?

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In Norway it's relatively normal. Plenty of used cars at normal prices and if you want a new car you can buy a Tesla and get it next month.

USA here - ordered a Tesla Model Y in July 2021. Estimated delivery was October 2021. A couple of weeks ago, that date changed to April 2022.

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My car died, needing a new engine, so I was forced to get one in October. I usually only buy used, but prices are so inflated it didn't seem worth the premium. Used 2017-2020 Toyota Rav4's with 30-60k miles were the same price as a new 2021 model, if you could get one. I knew it was bad, but I was shocked of how bad it was. I went to multiple mega dealerships with 500-1000 cars that were all spoken for. Most had 0 ne…

I was in the same boat. I usually avoid buying new but used cars are nearly the same price as new (if you can find a dealer that hasn't done ridiculous 'market adjustments'). So we bought new. We had to buy a car that was just off the delivery truck before the dealership had it inspected. The one we'd looked at two days before was long gone and they expected the one we bought to be sold the next day. My neighbor trad…

>Mechanics are about to make a killing.

If you're a mechanic and already have plenty of business, I imagine it's a tough call: do you jack up your hourly rates and take advantage of the windfall, at the risk of customer loyalty in the future? This insanity will pass, after all.

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In Norway it's relatively normal. Plenty of used cars at normal prices and if you want a new car you can buy a Tesla and get it next month.

USA here - ordered a Tesla Model Y in July 2021. Estimated delivery was October 2021. A couple of weeks ago, that date changed to April 2022.

Yes the Tesla cars we can buy without too long wait are from the Chinese factory. I ordered my Model Y late August and got it beginning of September.

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In Norway it's relatively normal. Plenty of used cars at normal prices and if you want a new car you can buy a Tesla and get it next month.

USA here - ordered a Tesla Model Y in July 2021. Estimated delivery was October 2021. A couple of weeks ago, that date changed to April 2022.

Man, that's crazy how sudden this car demand surge happened. I was in the market for a Model Y in February 2021 and got mine in March.

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Here's the flip side of that from auto lenders. They are seeing a huge recovery benefit from repossession of vehicle after chargeoff. Lenders portfolios are seeing a net benefit in chargeoffs which has hardly ever happened in recent history. Even more bizarre. https://www.yahoo.com/now/ally-financial-ally-beats-q3-12451...

That's insane.

If only all the small US banks and credit unions held off on their (~2005) indirect lending strategy and saved it for now, it might have actually been profitable!

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My truck is worth more today then when I bought it 4 years ago... Crazy that automobiles are now an appreciating asset...

This is exactly what we've done to the housing market in the US. For some reason, people intuitively get why it's happening with cars, but housing... it's some kind of weird mystery why it's so expensive in so many places.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the same boat. I usually avoid buying new but used cars are nearly the same price as new (if you can find a dealer that hasn't done ridiculous 'market adjustments'). So we bought new. We had to buy a car that was just off the delivery truck before the dealership had it inspected. The one we'd looked at two days before was long gone and they expected the one we bought to be sold the next day. My neighbor trad…

>Mechanics are about to make a killing. If you're a mechanic and already have plenty of business, I imagine it's a tough call: do you jack up your hourly rates and take advantage of the windfall, at the risk of customer loyalty in the future? This insanity will pass, after all.

Perhaps you just get pickier about the jobs you take.
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