On-site repairs sounds interesting, although their computers are all glued together and every component is soldered to the board so I have no idea how they'll manage that.
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's unlikely to be a thing they're working on. You can get that from storing your files in iCloud already, and these days is there any good reason to back up the rest of your system? If I had to rebuild a system due to hardware failure the absolute last thing I'd want to do would be restore all the accumulated system cruft!
Storing files in iCloud Drive is very different from a backup I would argue. What a business would want in this case is Backblaze like functionality with versioning / restore. iCloud drive also doesn't really help you with restoring a full system like it is possible on iOS where all your settings, passwords and apps are just like you left them.
> What a business would want in this case is Backblaze like functionality with versioning / restore
Maybe. Some businesses just back up just their user's files and just reimage machines when something goes wrong.
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#43On-site repairs sounds interesting, although their computers are all glued together and every component is soldered to the board so I have no idea how they'll manage that.
I have no evidence for this but I expect the experience would be similar to visiting an Apple store.
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#44There’s a few headlines talking about backups - does apple finally have a cloud based time machine replacement? I’d be so excited to see that as a general consumer too.
I think that's unlikely to be a thing they're working on. You can get that from storing your files in iCloud already, and these days is there any good reason to back up the rest of your system? If I had to rebuild a system due to hardware failure the absolute last thing I'd want to do would be restore all the accumulated system cruft!
> these days is there any good reason to back up the rest of your system
From experience, there is definite need. I spilled some water on my work laptop and it died. I was able to get a replacement in maybe 3 hours, but setting everything up again was a major pain.
A Time Machine backup would have let me continue more or less where I left off in a matter of an hour or two, vs. many hours/days (and some lost work). (not that Time Machine is perfect either, but much better than just iCloud)
I agree that getting rid of system cruft can be good, but it's better handled proactively than on machine failure IMO.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Storing files in iCloud Drive is very different from a backup I would argue. What a business would want in this case is Backblaze like functionality with versioning / restore. iCloud drive also doesn't really help you with restoring a full system like it is possible on iOS where all your settings, passwords and apps are just like you left them.
Doesn't iCloud Drive have a revision history? For example DropBox does, so Apple could add the feature. > all your settings, passwords and apps are just like you left them Now that most of these things come from the cloud anyway, do we need the rest of the system backed up? I don't need to restore my system from a backup - I just log back into Creative Cloud, Jet Brains, etc.
It probably very much depends on what you are using your computer for. If you are just living in Chrome and use Google Docs and Mail there this will work just fine.
If you are someone who has tools set up, apps not from the app store, come custom dot files, your shell history and environment variables this will not help you at all and getting up and running after a device got lost / destroyed will take you a day. Even if it's just simple things like your system theme / Dock positions of your apps.
You could probably fiddle and symlink things and hope everything works but it's not a "log in and have your device be in the same condition as before" like you'd get from an iOS "Restore from iCloud" functionality.
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#46On-site repairs sounds interesting, although their computers are all glued together and every component is soldered to the board so I have no idea how they'll manage that.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's unlikely to be a thing they're working on. You can get that from storing your files in iCloud already, and these days is there any good reason to back up the rest of your system? If I had to rebuild a system due to hardware failure the absolute last thing I'd want to do would be restore all the accumulated system cruft!
Storing files in iCloud Drive is very different from a backup I would argue. What a business would want in this case is Backblaze like functionality with versioning / restore. iCloud drive also doesn't really help you with restoring a full system like it is possible on iOS where all your settings, passwords and apps are just like you left them.
I use Backblaze, and aside from the cost, it's great. It's fine for 1 computer, but oof, there's no multi-computer discount. Most of my machines aren't backing up terabytes of storage either. We're talking like ~100gb a machine and there's two of them.
Businesses like to talk up "unlimited" but it's a pain when you're using less storage but have to subsidize those using a ton of storage.
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#48A few comments: 1. I was paying for iCloud and apple service for *YEARS* but then suddenly when I lost my phone, iCloud had no record of it. 2. I have had multiple employers in Silicon Valley who had the BYOD (Bring you own device) policy implemented but then they attached a SECONDARY DEVICE to my iCloud account and were slurping all personal records from that. 3. Show me a way to FUCKING MANAGE WHO IS ACCESSING MY D…
> 2. I have had multiple employers in Silicon Valley who had the BYOD (Bring you own device) policy implemented but then they attached a SECONDARY DEVICE to my iCloud account and were slurping all personal records from that.
I don't think MDM allow the admin to hijack your icloud account. Are you sure it's your employer, not some other?
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#49So they advertise AppleCare+ features (24/7 support, on-site repair) but they don't currently offer that nor do the prices reflect those services. Page seems deceiving (have to read the small print to really understand the offering). With those two removed, you're paying for an MDM solution and cloud storage.
The small print, for posterity:
> Plans with AppleCare+ for Business Essentials will be available in spring 2022.
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#50There’s a few headlines talking about backups - does apple finally have a cloud based time machine replacement? I’d be so excited to see that as a general consumer too.
I think that's unlikely to be a thing they're working on. You can get that from storing your files in iCloud already, and these days is there any good reason to back up the rest of your system? If I had to rebuild a system due to hardware failure the absolute last thing I'd want to do would be restore all the accumulated system cruft!
That really depends on the user.
As a developer, I’ve modified quite a few system files and would like those things backed up. It’s one reason I don’t use Backblaze – they refuse to backup system files.
As an employer, I can imagine a situation in which those “cruft” files contain information about the actions of an employee that might be valuable in legal proceedings, or just providing they were terminated for cause.
But 98% of the time you’re totally right about not needing to backup every little config file.