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Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by WithinReason »

funnyflamigo wrote: post #4
HenryKissinger wrote: post #3

It wouldn't be particularly hard for a trained person to block their thoughts to a brain implant, if the police were trying to read their mind.

If the police are able to implant a device into your brain to get information out of you, I think you're screwed either way as the good 'ol rubber hose method is likely on the table - at least until people commonly elect to do the surgery or the surgery somehow gets to legendary levels of safety in the dystopian future.

I'm pretty sure torture would be seen as barbaric and inhumane while reading thoughts would not have the same associations

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by EGreg »

funnyflamigo wrote: post #8
jonplackett wrote: post #5

The next truly massive tech revolution will have to be something even we tech peeps reject. And I think bodily embedded stuff would do the trick. It could be amazingly effective though if this is where we’re at already. Imagine the speed and enjoyment increase for anything from typing to gaming to driving a car. You’d get completely left behind if you rejected it.

> In tests, the man was able to achieve writing speeds of 90 characters per minute (about 18 words per minute), with approximately 94 percent accuracy (and up to 99 percent accuracy with autocorrect enabled). Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be advances. But this current tech is based off reading nerve data meant to be movement data - the user needs to mentally trace each letter. So I don't see this form of the…

Simple ... how about mentally tracing over a keyboard like Swype?

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by savant_penguin »

> (Don't think this nurse is hot! Don't think this nurse is hot! Holy shit she's hot.)

> (You can do this)

> (OMG, is it on already?)

> (You can do this)

> (What a nice bottom)

> (Don't think bottom you idiot)

> (She's entering the room, think something else, now, fast, bunny bunny)

> (Bunny)

> (Bunny)

> (Bunny, you got this)

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by funnyflamigo »

EGreg wrote: post #12
funnyflamigo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In tests, the man was able to achieve writing speeds of 90 characters per minute (about 18 words per minute), with approximately 94 percent accuracy (and up to 99 percent accuracy with autocorrect enabled). Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be advances. But this current tech is based off reading nerve data meant to be movement data - the user needs to mentally trace each letter. So I don't see this form of the…

Simple ... how about mentally tracing over a keyboard like Swype?

Question to anyone that knows - I know that actively "imagining" movements/activities is neurologically _very_ similar in many ways, which is why it works here for BCI. Do these "imagined" thoughts develop muscle memory?

Anyway, assuming they do, I'm not sure if it'd be a real advantage over physically swyping with your finger (for those that can obviously) - it seems like they'd be roughly equivalent?

Actually that'll be my second question - how is this system affected by things like tremors?

I'd suspect they originate from your brain in which case your "mental movements" should have the exact same quirks and limitations as physical movements.

The end game of course is not needing to use the movement system to interpret information.

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by tremon »

WithinReason wrote: post #11
funnyflamigo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the police are able to implant a device into your brain to get information out of you, I think you're screwed either way as the good 'ol rubber hose method is likely on the table - at least until people commonly elect to do the surgery or the surgery somehow gets to legendary levels of safety in the dystopian future.

I'm pretty sure torture would be seen as barbaric and inhumane while reading thoughts would not have the same associations

Yes, just wait until we can do the reading with on-skin electrodes or micro-needle patches.

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by Waterluvian »

savant_penguin wrote: post #13

> (Don't think this nurse is hot! Don't think this nurse is hot! Holy shit she's hot.) > (You can do this) > (OMG, is it on already?) > (You can do this) > (What a nice bottom) > (Don't think bottom you idiot) > (She's entering the room, think something else, now, fast, bunny bunny) > (Bunny) > (Bunny) > (Bunny, you got this)

I feel like if we got a perfect transcript of our internal monologue, we’d all be shocked at how much we think but instantly forget.

Re: Brain implant translates paralyzed man's thoughts into text with 94% accuracy

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Post by funnyflamigo »

WithinReason wrote: post #11
funnyflamigo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the police are able to implant a device into your brain to get information out of you, I think you're screwed either way as the good 'ol rubber hose method is likely on the table - at least until people commonly elect to do the surgery or the surgery somehow gets to legendary levels of safety in the dystopian future.

I'm pretty sure torture would be seen as barbaric and inhumane while reading thoughts would not have the same associations

If like the sibling said they develop on-skin electrodes or micro-needle patches I 100% agree.

Currently it requires an invasive and risky brain surgery which AFAIK would be a definite no-go. At least in the US, this would likely be considered extremely inhumane unless it could be done without such significant risk of death or brain damage - given the nature of the surgery I find that unlikely.

In the cases where an invasive brain surgery would be permitted, I imagine torture would already be an option. Keep in mind torture doesn't have nearly the same risk of death and permanent brain damage as an invasive brain surgery.

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