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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thaumasiotes »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #665
b3morales wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As noted in the parent, in the given scenario the phone number provides absolutely no improvement in security or verification that the person who enters the phone number is actually the owner of the account. At best, granting Google the benefit of the doubt, it is security theater. So, since it isn't effective for its stated purpose, are there other reasons it could be in place?

It's not security theater, they don't verify whose phone number is provided. Whatever number they get is used to unlock the account.

That's what would make it "security theater" as opposed to "security".

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by dang »

xeronik wrote: post #659
lloydatkinson wrote: post #560

After a long time spending my free time helping out in the C# discord before leaving due to extreme ego and staff cliques and then more recently the Vue discord and getting nothing but grief in return and zero thanks for the 4 years helping on the Vue discord after a couple of moderators unfortunately became jealous at my message count in comparison to them (yeah, immature as hell), I couldn't agree more. What a wast…

The C# discord became a lot better after lloyd left due to his "extreme ego" lol. "if it seems like it's everyone else, then it's probably you"

You can't attack another user like that here. I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by charcircuit »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #622
charcircuit wrote: post #607

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>Not going to join your Discord "server" when I don't even know anything about your community. Why not? It's just as easy to join a discord server as to visit a site. If you don't have a Discord account already you can just type something random for your nickname.

I disagree. It's harder. > you can just type something random for your nickname. See, already harder. I don't want to join something just so I can read it. I'll join it if I want to interact.

most people already have an account so it's not harder

and is like 5 key presses that hard?

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by charcircuit »

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #638
charcircuit wrote: post #607

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>Not going to join your Discord "server" when I don't even know anything about your community. Why not? It's just as easy to join a discord server as to visit a site. If you don't have a Discord account already you can just type something random for your nickname.

Click the link, hope you're not inadvertently joining with your porn account, type a nickname, sit in the waiting room for 10 minutes until you can click the emoji that says you read the rules, get in, get notifications from unrelated channels because someone used @here begging for boosts, write out your question, get pinged again by a bot because you levelled up, then discover it wasn't the server you were looking f…

Why would a support discord do that?

>porn account

literally no one cares

>type a nickname

You don't need to

>sit in the waiting room for 10 minutes until you can click the emoji that says you read the rules

Most servers don't do this and you can set up your server to not do this

>get notifications from unrelated channels because someone used @here begging for boosts

This doesn't happen to me in the servers I am in.

>get pinged again by a bot because you levelled up

You don't need a bot like this in your server.

Instead of hating discord just hate when people set things up like that.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by nightpool »

brw wrote: post #457
nightpool wrote: post #174

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This is super frustrating. Discord requires server operators to enable phone number verification if they want any of the additional "Community" features. It's a hugely backwards requirement and it's the main reason I haven't given the community feature set a second look for any of the servers I run.

> Members of the server must have a verified email on their Discord account before sending messages or DMing anyone in the server. (Note that this doesn’t apply to users that have assigned roles!)[1] I also help with running a community server which doesn't have the phone number requirement enabled either. It's also not required for partnered servers as far as I'm aware. You can even get around the email requirement…

Ah, I was misremembering whether email or phone verification was required. Either way, it's still a very heavy-weight requirement for what's basically a drop-in drop-out support channel for us.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by errantspark »

glenneroo wrote: post #672
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #668

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It looks like this: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E3372h-153-Unlocked-External-A...

Ah yes, thanks! I have used a similar USB dongle. I was wondering if it was a special built-in tray or slot in the laptop.

My laptop does have a sim tray and an internal modem, the antenna is in the screen. (HP Spectre x360 13" for those curious)

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by grayhatter »

smashah wrote: post #629
openfuture wrote: post #593

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Discord does not allow third party clients. In my book that is as user hostile as it gets and due to my FOSSisms I'm effectively barred from using it.

Well I think you'd find that your first barrier would be the fact that most open source projects are run off of GitHub which is a company owned by Microsoft.

Does github limit what clients you're allowed to use with it?

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by TonyTrapp »

glenneroo wrote: post #672
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #668

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like this: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E3372h-153-Unlocked-External-A...

Ah yes, thanks! I have used a similar USB dongle. I was wondering if it was a special built-in tray or slot in the laptop.

In my older ThinkPad, the SIM was a slot behind the battery. In a later model, it's a tray that has to be opened with a paperclip next to the card reader. The modem itself is a mini PCIe card like they're used for some laptop SSDs and antennas are in the screen like wifi antennas.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by Gentil »

reilly3000 wrote: post #487
Gentil wrote: post #482

Forums are awesome for this context. It is most of the time better for privacy as well. But is it just me or whenever I use Discourse forum, my FB container in Firefox shows it has blocked something which FB uses to track me! This is in multiple discourse forums self hosted and otherwise. So am assuming it is bundled with Discourse. This bugs me the hell out. And Discourse is everywhere too since it has an open sourc…

It may be Facebook login. They don’t have native support for a Facebook pixel or like button to my knowledge and it’s not likely that every discourse forum is manually adding those things - it almost seems antithetical to have a self-hosted forum and be promoting a Facebook group/page.

I hope they remove it. Anything and everything FB sends data. Their share button alone does it. Don't you think their auth does it too?
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