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Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

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The reason why volume measurements developed in the US rather mass measurements can be traced back to Frankie Farmer’s The Boston Cooking-School Cook Book of 1896. The first cookbook with accurate and repeatable recipes. Volume measurements were a practical matter. Every kitchen had measuring cups. No one had a scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boston_Cooking-School_Cook...

And now you can buy a digital scale for like $20. It's the 21st century, weight measurements are way more accurate, easier too for small quantities.

It's almost as if legacy recipes don't exist, nor are very important to people, nor have working knowledge built around these units.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

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post #64

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I love how they say the content that users dislike is "relevant to the recipe", rather than admitting its SEO fodder.

It's actually not SEO fodder (necessarily). Recipes are not copyrightable but if you pair a recipe with a story, the entire deliverable is copyrightable [0] because the recipe becomes a work of expression rather than a rote list. > In other words, a bare recipe, without literary expression, is not copyrightable [0]: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3741a5c0-f146... .

Interesting point, I hadn't considered this.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

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The search here is great - you can filter by min number of reviews and sort by star rating, which should be the default on amzn, newegg, etc.

Ok, I know this filter is not on ecommerce sites b/c money but one day there will be enough competition and then ...

Ok, I know there will never be real competition b/c capitalism. Why can't you just let me have this little fiction?

Ok, I know b/c reality.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

#165
post #126

I love the tabulated recipes shown on cookingforengineers.com [1]. Ever since I first saw this, whenever I get a recipe, from anywhere, I convert it by hand to this format. Perhaps you can automate that process? That would be rad! [1] http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/108/Banana-Nut-Bre...

Please excuse my ignorance, can you explain how I'm supposed to read those? Top-to bottom first? I studied the pizza one and onion rings and while I could create the items from the format, I feel as though I don't fully understand it.

Read it in whatever order, just make sure to do all the things inside one enclosure, before moving onto a bigger one.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

#166
post #31

Great idea! But please read https://www.evanmiller.org/how-not-to-sort-by-average-rating...

It shouldn't be sorted by rating to begin with. If I search for "doughnuts", it's rather unlikely that I'm interested in "Chapssal doughnuts" (top spot), "Pumpkin Doughnuts" (second spot) or even "Gluten-Free Baked Chocolate Doughnuts Recipe" (third spot). The list should be ordered (somehow, no idea how) by classic or common interpretation of the query first and pushing exotics, varieties and fusion stuff down to th…

Completely unrelated to your point, but I had to check what "sourdough dressing" was. And, yeah, it's a salad dressing with bread blended into it. I've heard of doing that, but kinda want to try it now.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

#167
post #47

next level: mining the sites for the content and getting rid of the recipe's life story. to me, no-bs means ingredients and instructions. Maybe a few pictures of the target meal. thats it.

https://plainoldrecipe.com/ does this!

It didn´t work with this link: https://www.bakerita.com/oatmeal-fig-bars-gluten-free-vegan/

I've personally found mysaffronapp.com to be way better at this: It has been able to process recipes from every website I've shot at it. I think the developer contributes here to HN, as i learned about the site from a post she/he made.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

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You need multiple rating systems for recipes and the lack of that model is why recipe sites are bullshit, and will continue to be bullshit. A recipe that tastes bad should never be shown to anyone. But if there are two flavorful recipes and one of them has better instructions, then that's the one that should be sorted to the top. My go-to analogy for people being bad at documentation is to compare them to the variati…

You are so correct on the order and timing of items. Everyone in my family was trying to make my grandmothers cookies. I was the only one who went over and documented exactly how she made them. Now that she is gone. I have been designated as the only one who 'knows how to make them'. Even though I proclaim loud and clearly and have documented 'you must make them exactly like this or they will not taste the same'. The…

And now I want the recipe.

Two days ago please, I want the cookies now.

Re: Show HN: I built a no-BS recipe search engine

#169
post #126

I love the tabulated recipes shown on cookingforengineers.com [1]. Ever since I first saw this, whenever I get a recipe, from anywhere, I convert it by hand to this format. Perhaps you can automate that process? That would be rad! [1] http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/108/Banana-Nut-Bre...

Please excuse my ignorance, can you explain how I'm supposed to read those? Top-to bottom first? I studied the pizza one and onion rings and while I could create the items from the format, I feel as though I don't fully understand it.

I'd say those tabulated views at the bottom of each recipe page should be read like this:

1. Read and do all the "full-width" items at the top first as preparation

2. The remaining items in the tabulated recipe should be read as a combination dependency graph and Gantt chart. E.g. mashing ripe bananas can be done in parallel with melting the butter and beating the eggs, but all three must be completed in order to move onto the step of "mashing until smooth" all those ingredients together with the vanilla extract ingredient. This way of reading is more of a "left to right" approach.

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