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Private corporations are collecting the data, the state is just buying it, and I doubt they are the only customer.
Yep. As has often been said, everything you do online is (or you should assume to be) public. There are no secrets.
The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people
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Why do you need more similarities? The mass data collection completes the system.
Because we need to understand the purpose of the data collection and what bad things might happen because of it. If Treasury is using this data to catch people who violate economic sanctions, ok. If the IRS is using this data to catch people who cheat on their taxes, ok. I don't love either of those things, but they are using the data only to do things that have been defined as their job to do for a long time now. Th…
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The difference between a credit score and a social credit score system is one is based on debt payment history and the other based on political dissent & debt payment. Currently saying "Lets Go Brandon" doesn't drop your credit score, in China you may lose quite a few points for posting that pesky bear that likes honey.
Having an arrest on your record is enough to bar your from job and housing, even if charges were dropped or you were found not guilty. That alone is enough of a chilling effect to affect behavior: for example, staying away from protests or not questioning a police officer. Again, we are already there.
I was arrested once and I got the charge expunged with community service. Hasn't affected my job applications so far.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you need more similarities? The mass data collection completes the system.
Because we need to understand the purpose of the data collection and what bad things might happen because of it. If Treasury is using this data to catch people who violate economic sanctions, ok. If the IRS is using this data to catch people who cheat on their taxes, ok. I don't love either of those things, but they are using the data only to do things that have been defined as their job to do for a long time now. Th…
In the US, except in California perhaps, you have no recourse. In the EU, that's a violation of GDPR and various local data protection laws. Elsewhere, unclear.
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#145This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccura…
Conservative press is abuzz with this (including photos of the promo leaflet), liberal press is dead silent. Since nobody on this site will believe a conservative news source, I'm not even going to bother providing a link. If you're in Utah, ask your local government to put an end to this horseshit before it's too late.
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#146Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people
#147This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccura…
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#148It seems apparent that the US government is pursuing a novel strategy to route around the Bill of Rights: Steps: * Allow (and encourage) private sector monopolies to form * Use its leverage and influence to "encourage" those monopolies to do things which the US government is not allowed to do (examples: censorship, data collection) The list of First Amendment precedents, for example, with respect to the government is…
Re: The U.S. Treasury is buying private app data to target and investigate people
#149This is not a new take, but I think "the west" is effectively building their own version of China's social credit. It's just distributed among a range of private companies and accessed via subpoena or contract. The fact that the government doesn't operate most of it directly is largely irrelevant to those negatively affected by it and in some ways makes the situation worse (who do you even contact to correct inaccura…
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I mean the available options kinda forces that.
I think middle age is turning me into some flavor anarchist. Weird.