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Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#51
I pulled up your main page on Firefox and just did a search for "asd" - testing it out. Scrolling down a bit to images shows me some definitely NSFW images. If the goal is to be used in the workplace since you mention developer-focused "search-apps" then this is a nonstarter for me. Just a heads up.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#52
post #21
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to use the plugin, just search at the top of the page. The text around the plugin is misleading. Strike 1 IMHO.

When I click the search bar at the top of the page it takes me to the plugin install page.

On mobile I'm able to search no problem. I guess that makes sense though because Chrome extensions on mobile aren't a thing.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#53

if they are pushing an extension then they are probably trying to monetize by putting their affiliate code on the url when you go to places that have affiliate programs like Amazon.

You are right to be skeptical of extensions. There are a lot of sketchy ones out there but...

Nope. We aren't doing that and not planning to.

All the extension does is change one setting. If you set your search engine default to http://you.com manually in Chrome with "https://you.com/search?q=%s" you will not need the extension... but for most people convenience wins and well... It's tough to go up against a monopoly that controls the browser too?

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#54
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I don't like requiring a chrome extension to search, and giving a 404 error on uninstall ( https://you.com/chrome_uninstall_survey ) is suspicious. If the developers aren't checking links and testing their product, then I don't want to use it.

Yea... Requiring the default was a tough choice. You actually can try it out in incognito mode and any other browser. But we found that without the convenience of a navbar search, most people won't give it a proper try either way. I hope we can drop this requirement even in Chrome when we become one of the default options. If you set your search engine default to http://you.com manually in Chrome with " https://you.c…

Present the extension as an option then, not a requirement, with instructions on how to add the search manually.

It looks promising but if you block access without the extension, a portion of users like me are just not going to give it a chance. Not just because it's inconvenient but I rarely install extensions because it opens up the browser more to potential bad actors when I want it as secure as possible. I also don't want to change my browser settings before trying and the fact you require an extension is just a bad signal of what's to come.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#55
post #15

I don't like requiring a chrome extension to search, and giving a 404 error on uninstall ( https://you.com/chrome_uninstall_survey ) is suspicious. If the developers aren't checking links and testing their product, then I don't want to use it.

Yea... Requiring the default was a tough choice. You actually can try it out in incognito mode and any other browser. But we found that without the convenience of a navbar search, most people won't give it a proper try either way. I hope we can drop this requirement even in Chrome when we become one of the default options. If you set your search engine default to http://you.com manually in Chrome with " https://you.c…

You went to the trouble of showing "To see results and get the convenience of you.com, you’ll need to add the you.com Chrome extension" when you could have just showed me the **** search results.

This isn't making it more convenient, bro. You(dot com) just wasted my 10 seconds.

You're stabbing yourself in the leg in order to spite Google

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#56
I did a few quick searches on differing topics and I must say the relevancy is almost on par with Google. DDG doesn't even come close: especially for typeahead suggestions. Only weird thing is that it doesn't feel fast - may be due to whole HN doing a stress test right now.

It will be nice to default to Web based on previous searches. the default all tab takes forever to load results probably due to images and videos hogging the same page.

It is mentioned as open search engine: what does that mean ? is it open index/api is open or fake open like openai ?

>> we'll never sell your data or follow you around the web and we'll never offer privacy-invading targeted ads.

I don't think the above will age well in search

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#57
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I get one experience in Incognito mode, a completely different one in normal mode. They tell you to install a Chrome ext to use it when you can just do so without it in incognito mode. Removing the ext also takes you to a 404 page that seems suspect. Already playing tricks on users at launch, at least it took Google a decade to remove their "don't be evil."

Hi Soheil.

Yea... Requiring the default was a tough choice. You actually can try it out in incognito mode and any other browser. We didn't want to mess with privacy in incognito mode but just found that without the convenience of a navbar search it's hard to break many years of a monopoly dominating search. I hope we can drop this requirement even in Chrome when we become one of the default options.

But as you found out, installing and uninstalling takes only a few seconds.

Regarding the uninstall bug... not sure why you think that bug is an "evil" "trick" :) We are just in beta and still have to iron things out. We are waiting to get approval from the Chrome store and will fix that bug soon.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#59
I've used the you.com beta for about a month, and I've switched back to DuckDuckGo because the results were too slow to show up and the elements on the results page jumped around too much. Superficial, I know, but I just didn't want to wait for all the extra answers to pop up.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

#60
I'd like to know more about the "built for devs" concept you are presenting to us. What does that mean to you?

For me personally, I rarely perform site:github.com or site:stackoverflow.com searches in my browser's default search engine. I typically just enter a few keywords and try to make sense of what I find.

When I personally think of a search engine built for devs, I think of one that parses queries differently from the natural language processing that seems to be all the rage these days. For instance, when I search "?. C#" I want to know what this operator actually is. Instead, the algorithm omits the ?. and just returns the most generic results relating to C#. https://you.com/search?q=%3F.%20C%23&fromSearchBar=true This is true even when I put the "?." in quotes. One of the results is titled "Null coalescing operator" from Wikipedia, but this is actually misleading since ?. is actually the null-conditional operator. The information is there but it is not easy to find.

The other item on my wishlist for a dev-centric search engine is to be able to persist the main language(s) I am trying to search about. Its mildly tedious to type C3 and then my keywords (..... dammit, C#, this happens ALL the time), in each query to narrow things down and not get javascript results.

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