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Screw the ornamental stuff, when do we start getting different large-scale patterns in spaces to live and work? Long dark hallways filled with apartments where nobody knows each other or has any occasion to interact. Secluded offices vs. anxiety inducing planes of "open" disasters. Apartments designed to be a shrine to a television and a small bedroom with light only suitable for cave dwellers. The shape of spaces is…
Sure, that too. Architects don't give a shit about interior spaces. They have interns do the plans. What they are lauded for is the exterior, the big hall and the sky terrace. To be fair the working space is being experimented upon. The open spaces are fairly new, and there are plenty of workplaces also where people don't have attributed desks, they just walk around the building and sit wherever they want. Whether an…
When is the revolution in architecture coming?
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#162Bad architecture is so pervasive for the same reason bad software is.
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#163In the interim, it's also possible to work with some of the stuff that's already here[0] in very simply ways if financial constraints and practical considerations prevent razing offending architecture and building greenfield. It doesn't take all that much to turn a mediocre building into something that's at least passable. The real difficulty is when the architect has painted you into a corner by producing some weird construction that forms a rigid and perverse totality of which nothing can be saved. Yes, looking at the poop building in the article. You cannot expand or extend or modify that building. Don't let the mood lighting reflecting off its surface fool you here either. You don't fix the problem of oppressive and ugly austerity by building things that look like shit.
I also sympathize with taking on local architectural traditions, but only in a way that refines them and in a way that respects aesthetic principles. Gaudy buildings that look like something that belongs in Vegas or Atlantic City are not fun or "whimsical". They're gaudy.
[0] https://www.stroik.com/portfolio/infant-of-prague-cloister
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#165I am not an architect but I've done a far amount of amateur studying and I find some modernist architecture interesting and/or fascinating. It definitely helps to understand what the architect was trying to accomplish. I can see why other architects--who have the background to understand--would like the examples in the original article.
But public buildings shouldn't require the general public to have a background in architecture to appreciate them. This disconnect between architects and the public is the root of the problem.
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There are multiple problems in the architect community. One is the marquee architects were all raised up in a post-war era where--some have argued--their designs are more influenced by PTSD than art. The brutalism of a modern building was certainly influenced by the materials--prestressed concrete and poured concrete, for example--but to put a stark and ugly face on a building requires a broken mind. Those marquee ar…
> We were able, through materials science, to increase vertical density at the cost of human scale structures. I’m not sure the two are in opposition. I feel more connected to humanity in NY, Tokyo, Hong Kong than I do in, say, Denver or Orlando. The economic forces that drive verticality also drive the use of ground level for retail, restaurants, etc.
Orlando wouldn't be human scale any more than the Burj Kalafia is. Orlando is automobile scaled, and would suffer the same consequences as the Burj if energy costs skyrocket.
That said, there are some people who thrive in places like NYC. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to deal with the sea of humanity, and not a lot of people can.
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#167A bit of an aside - I have often wondered what makes "good" architecture, i.e. what is it about a space that means it is still a "good" place to be. There are many examples of both "old", "post-war", and "modern" architecture in London where the spaces are still great spaces and inspiring and welcoming and just work for their purpose, and likewise there are examples where they are depressing and miserable.
What is the "magic formula" for this that makes a building or space work? There has to be some theory on this, but if so why are "bad" buildings still made?
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#168I've seen enough revolution. I would be far more interested in an architectural counter-revolution, with the vendee marching on these modern monstrosities with pitch forks, torches and jackhammers.
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It's the slow march of the "business" mindset taking over all decision-making. Buildings are paid for by businessmen, businessmen want to be cheap and follow the crowd, and you end up with the same cheaply built building over and over.
Yet many 19th century warehouses had more ornamentation that today's Pritzker winners. At some point, there were businessmen backing beautiful buildings. I do think Apple's Ring campus is minimalist while also trying to be beautiful. But Ive and Jobs weren't architects by training.
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#170I actually prefer the modern ones to the old ones (... well some of them at least). A bit of an aside - I have often wondered what makes "good" architecture, i.e. what is it about a space that means it is still a "good" place to be. There are many examples of both "old", "post-war", and "modern" architecture in London where the spaces are still great spaces and inspiring and welcoming and just work for their purpose,…