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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by handrous »

nucleardog wrote: post #518
sildur wrote: post #411

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Well, gitlab is way better. Github is the Facebook of developers.

Gitlab docs say the absolutely bare minimum of RAM to run it is 4GB. And that's just for gitlab, never mind Postgres. That's something like $70/mo just to host some git repos on a major cloud provider. And if you're talking about the hosted solution... we use that at work. We have what are effectively outages once a week on average. I like the way Gitlab as a company is run and I really want to like it but... I use g…

> gitea

Can confirm that gitea's pretty nice. It's not heavier than a web-based git host should be. I really like that it has a SQLite database option, since that's plenty good enough for low-tens of users and operationally simpler.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thaumasiotes »

ouid wrote: post #431
megous wrote: post #310

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It's especially nice when traveling. I was once asked by a client to do something while I was in other country about 5k km from regular location. Couldn't login to the apps account for this reason (no backup email or phone set). So I didn't do the work. I suspect it's some work-life balance enhancing thing. :D I don't really mind, since it also helps me bash Google services in front of my clients who still use them,…

I wouldn't rely on printing out cash, that can get you in trouble.

Maybe, but it sure is convenient. ;D

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by [deleted] »

jedberg wrote: post #70

Oh please do. This seems like the perfect time to bring this up: I had a piece of software that used Discord for support. They required that users be verified, which requires you to give you phone number to Discord. I gave them my Google Voice number, which is the only number I have, and they rejected it because they don't support VOIP numbers. I asked them if there was any other way to verify my identity. They told…

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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by ramesh31 »

There's a lot of value in both. I love being able to hop into a Discord for an open source project and get an immediate answer to a problem I'm dealing with. What we really need is something that logs out chats to a publicly available search indexed archive.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by noneeeed »

adwww wrote: post #610
noneeeed wrote: post #597

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Do you not have seperate channels for that sort of thing? We have a channel called "big-wins" where the sales people can flag up new/extended deals. I have it muted but check it out from time to time to see if we've bought in any interesting customers. Channels and channel discipline are the key to keeping Slack manageable. Have lots of channels with specific purposes and people can choose what they care about and ig…

#general. I'd quite like to be able to mute almost all middle management. Hearing people like 'head of people' or 'release manager' spout inspirational management quotes just makes me cynical and miserable. I'm far happier with my job and probably also more productive without their input.

Urrgh. We don't have a general channel for exactly that reason. We have a channel for general chit-chat that is nothing to do with work but that's as close as it gets. Anything else work related goes into subject/team/project specific channels. We even have a shoutouts channel specifically for bigging up someone who has done a good job at something.

general channels are cancer in any communication system as far as I've experienced.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by skydhash »

tomc1985 wrote: post #495
cma wrote: post #393

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Maybe I'm misreading what he is getting at. Is it more of a politeness is bad thing?

I'm trying to point out the hypocrisy of a cultural impetus to be super inclusive towards everyone, except the people you disagree with

Because opinion is transient and can be changed on a whim, unless what is part of the identity of the person (physical apparence, religion and other cor values). Being exclusive only reduce cohesiveness.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by PascLeRasc »

gxnxcxcx wrote: post #630
PascLeRasc wrote: post #320

This is a little off-topic, but does anyone have a good way to manage different identities on Discord? For example I'm in one Discord with real-life friends, one for a game community, and one for programming. I'd like my account to have different names and profile pictures for each. So far that appears impossible but maybe there's a way I haven't found.

Right click on server icon > Edit server profile. Custom nickname per server is a free feature. Alas, custom profile pic per server is a paid feature.

Thanks, I guess for the price of Nitro that'll be good enough.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by b0rsuk »

curun1r wrote: post #460
julianlam wrote: post #445

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I agree that subreddits have a very low barrier to entry, but all that comes at a cost. Among other things, one of those costs is that your content is no longer owned by you. Should Reddit decide to take itself private, or make ethically questionable decisions, etc., you are locked in due to the networking effect.

There’s risk in everything…self-hosted forum software run by an open source project also has a potential of going offline, either because hosting becomes onerous/expensive or some sort of database issue. Discord and Github have the exact same potential you’ve mentioned for Reddit. There’s no perfect answer.

If it's quality conversation, it will be quoted elsewhere, mirrored (if only to add ads!) and even archived for example on archive.com. Blog posts will be written that refer to it as a rationale for doing that way.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by b0rsuk »

Have there been any efforts to make forums INTEROPERATE with each other? A big advantage of Reddit or FB is that it's consistent and works well with another subreddit etc. Oldschool online forums can only link to outside posts, but there's no trivial feature to quote a post from another forum for example. You can do something like "quote='I edited this field manually'"
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