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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by InnerGargoyle »

boplicity wrote: post #295
nbzso wrote: post #229

I will patiently wait for the real internet to return. RSS/Blogs/Forums. This is the only way for archiving and communicating sustainable information repos which will serve people without a middleman. Creating federated silos with "modern" UX is serving only the owners of this SaaS hell. It is logical for those type of businesses to optimize for "engagement" and profit.

Many of those things are still there. I've run an old-school style forum since 2009, and it is still going strong. Many of the people using it are very different than the HN crowd: non-tech savvy, relatively old, mostly women relatively low-income. The design has barely changed since it was first created, though I've incrementally added useful features (and not useful features) specifically geared towards helping the…

bless you brother. may i ask what is this forum is about?

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

nucleardog wrote: post #518
sildur wrote: post #411

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Well, gitlab is way better. Github is the Facebook of developers.

Gitlab docs say the absolutely bare minimum of RAM to run it is 4GB. And that's just for gitlab, never mind Postgres. That's something like $70/mo just to host some git repos on a major cloud provider. And if you're talking about the hosted solution... we use that at work. We have what are effectively outages once a week on average. I like the way Gitlab as a company is run and I really want to like it but... I use g…

>That's something like $70/mo just to host some git repos on a major cloud provider.

Don't use a major cloud provider. That's $20/mo with Digital Ocean.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by Milenium »

nucleardog wrote: post #518
sildur wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, gitlab is way better. Github is the Facebook of developers.

Gitlab docs say the absolutely bare minimum of RAM to run it is 4GB. And that's just for gitlab, never mind Postgres. That's something like $70/mo just to host some git repos on a major cloud provider. And if you're talking about the hosted solution... we use that at work. We have what are effectively outages once a week on average. I like the way Gitlab as a company is run and I really want to like it but... I use g…

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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

aikinai wrote: post #385
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

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Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

How does that story have anything to do with being evil, by any stretch of the definition? Are you insinuating that Google has this convoluted verification flow to intentionally harm people in some way? Or even to intentionally harm privacy or further business goals at users' expense? Or are you just using "evil" to refer to anything you don't like?

FB were caught using 2FA phone numbers for 'evil' purposes.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/fixed-ftc-orders-faceb...

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

charcircuit wrote: post #607
account42 wrote: post #569

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> What I like about forums is that a) they're indexable by search engines! and b) because there's no expectation of an immediate response, people tend to put more time into their requests for help. For me there is also c) I can browse the content that is already there without signing up. Not going to join your Discord "server" when I don't even know anything about your community.

>Not going to join your Discord "server" when I don't even know anything about your community. Why not? It's just as easy to join a discord server as to visit a site. If you don't have a Discord account already you can just type something random for your nickname.

Click the link, hope you're not inadvertently joining with your porn account, type a nickname, sit in the waiting room for 10 minutes until you can click the emoji that says you read the rules, get in, get notifications from unrelated channels because someone used @here begging for boosts, write out your question, get pinged again by a bot because you levelled up, then discover it wasn't the server you were looking for after all.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by kuroguro »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #212
errantspark wrote: post #82

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I constantly run into this problem, I've used my google voice number for everything for years (yeah it's not a great move but very hard to migrate away from) and a frustrating number of services recently have been rejecting it for verification. I end up having to take the sim out of my laptop and put it in my PinePhone. It's such a hassle. This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks. Sa…

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

Wherever I can I set up code generation / TOTP 2FA precisely to avoid lockouts. Then to avoid losing all of those whenever I change/reinstall my phone I opt for the less secure option of storing them in a password manager...

I can't think of another way not to get locked out in case I ever lose my phone.

Google, Paypal and a few others seem to be the worst offenders at "protecting me".

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #41

I’ve tried to use forums so many times but I just can’t use them effectively. I don’t want to create accounts and get the notification settings correct so I don’t have to log in to see replies to my messages without getting spammed. The only forum I’ve had success with as a user is Reddit. It isn’t the best forum software in the world but it is miles better than the usual php bulletin boards. Having run a forum befor…

Reddit can absorb off-topic digressions better than traditional linear forums at the expense of conversations becoming repetitious because five separate conversations each say approximately the same thing. However, the "one login to rule them all" trumps that UI hurdle.
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