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Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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translation: Dear HP: Please Keep Burning Money For Our Entertainment

With HP focusing on enterprisey software, it'll never again be as entertaining to watch.

But I trust somehow reason will once more shine its light onto HP's board, that they will fire this idiot and abandon his silly idea of turning HP into SAP.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

#12
Large amounts of unintended irony in this piece featuring tablet advice from Arrington (red flag) that amounts to "HP should sell large numbers of hardware for low margin".

You mean, just like the PC business they're trying to exit? And the console business that can't shoot straight because the era of $60 apps is fading fast?

Because you know, Best Buy is super excited to buy tablets from HP for just under $200 and retail them for $200 while being shut out of the app/ad/bandwidth/content ecosystem.

To make an ecosystem only strategy work today I think you need to have your own distribution network and HP isn't really in a position to burn bridges with Best Buy over the rounding error that is their tablet business.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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WebOS is a terrible, flawed, slow as molasses OS. WebOS will never gain traction because apps on it will always be much slower than native compiled apps on iOS or even JITed apps on Android. It's that simple. No amount of buzzword compliance is going to change that. Just look at this benchmark: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4658/40733.png The device/OS which relies on JavaScript performance for everything i…

> WebOS is a terrible, flawed, slow as molasses OS.

Maybe version 3 is. My Pre 2 is nice and responsive.

> WebOS will never gain traction because apps on it will always be much slower than native compiled apps on iOS or even JITed apps on Android.

JavaScript can be JITed. And you can write native code for it just fine. It's just not that much fun.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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post #12

Large amounts of unintended irony in this piece featuring tablet advice from Arrington ( red flag ) that amounts to "HP should sell large numbers of hardware for low margin". You mean, just like the PC business they're trying to exit? And the console business that can't shoot straight because the era of $60 apps is fading fast? Because you know, Best Buy is super excited to buy tablets from HP for just under $200 and…

I agree with you, beside the Best Buy comment. They already operate with small margins for the hardware, where they make most of the money is selling you all the other crap with it, from the case for your brand new tablet to a 3 year extended warranty.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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WebOS is a terrible, flawed, slow as molasses OS. WebOS will never gain traction because apps on it will always be much slower than native compiled apps on iOS or even JITed apps on Android. It's that simple. No amount of buzzword compliance is going to change that. Just look at this benchmark: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4658/40733.png The device/OS which relies on JavaScript performance for everything i…

That's why I want one to test my web apps, keeping in line with yesterday's discussion - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2911935 . But I haven't seen any fire sales here in the UK. The cheapest I've found is for ~£160 on ebay from people who bought the $99 ones in the US.

Check these sites: http://www.tz10.co.uk/touchpad/

I think I got one from Comet but it's hard to know even if I paid for it, demand has been huge and sites are being down seconds after they lower the price.

Also, people are buying them at the normal price because they know they can return them if they don't get a refund. And since stores don't want to deal with it, everyone is very confident stores will just refund it.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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Dear Techcrunch,

Android tablets will soon be sub-$200 and will come in any number of form factors, styles and configurations using an OS that actually has a chance of long term support. In fact if all you want is a web browsing device they are there already and have been for a while.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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WebOS is a terrible, flawed, slow as molasses OS. WebOS will never gain traction because apps on it will always be much slower than native compiled apps on iOS or even JITed apps on Android. It's that simple. No amount of buzzword compliance is going to change that. Just look at this benchmark: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4658/40733.png The device/OS which relies on JavaScript performance for everything i…

When they put WebOS on the iPad it ran twice as fast: http://news.techeye.net/hardware/webos-did-better-on-an-ipad The problem with the ToughPad was that the hardware was appallingly slow.

They didn't put WebOS on an iPad and no one has been able to verify this claim, ever. Now the apps, mostly, are javascript and css. Most apps you could run through the browser on an iPad and that is how WebOS development is done.

In fact you could start the WebOS emulator, designate a port to connect over and open your favorite browser to the IP and port of the emulator. This is how actual development is done as defined in their SDK.

Most of the people posting this ridiculous link don't know what they are talking about. Anyone can run a webos app in a browser. No one has been able to run webos outside of webOS devices.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dixons/PC World/Curry's had one yesterday online, and in store today. Reduced to £89 I believe.

I checked online yesterday but didn't see any reduced prices. I called Curry's just now and they had a recorded message saying they've sold out. I can't believe I missed it!

I think I got one on Dabs earlier before they sold out (got a confirmation email but whether they had any stock is another matter). Your best bet is play.com, who haven’t lowered their prices yet but probably will.

Re: Dear HP: Please Keep Making Those TouchPads

#19
I think that's called Groupon. Taking billions of dollars of investor money and tying it up with no hope of making a single dime. You'll get millions of users and entrench yourself deeper and deeper in a broken business model.
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