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The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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You mean like facebook is better than the freaking entire _internet_ ?

Like how MacOSX is better than Linux.

MacOSX may have been better than Linux when MacOSX was at its peak a few years ago, but nowadays Apple is busy making it worse while Linux keeps improving.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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The gold standard would be the matrix but one that you’re aware you’re in and can leave at any time.

I am pretty sure that the gold standard would be real life. It doesn't require energy or batteries to just exist in real life, unlike the army of devices that will be required to support all this new tech and network infrastructure. Very odd that on one hand there is a push towards saving the Earth and the carbon crisis, and on the other hand excitement towards technology that lets everyone stick their head in the sa…

> and on the other hand excitement towards technology that lets everyone stick their head in the sand.

Well TBF, isn't that what culture has been for since the invention of the first song and story?

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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The most important fact about Java Minecraft that most people are missing is that long after Notch left the company they started distributing deobfuscation maps for it: C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\versions\1.17.1\1.17.1.json Look for: client_mappings & server_mappings https://launcher.mojang.com/v1/objects/e4d540e0cba05a6097e88... https://launcher.mojang.com/v1/objects/f6cae1c5c1255f68ba483... The tr…

So apparently I'm not allowed to redistribute the re-obfuscated jar but instead I need to map my changes to be compatible with the official jar. That puts a quick end to my interest in this project... But I still deobfuscated 1.14.4 and 1.17.1 and compared the file additions/removals here: http://move.rupy.se/file/diff.txt

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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It's not like wealth-gaps will be left outside of any realistic metaverse (especially one made by FB, but not only that). If people treat it seriously, then it becomes linked with all the real world factors, and wealth is obviously one of those.

I saw an article years back about MMO gold farmers, I think in Mexico. They sat in an air-conditioned room, and the wages were decent - they liked the job. If we can transfer wealth from people who have money but not time, to people somewhere else in the world, who have time but not money, then I'm calling that a good thing.

I downloaded an RPG last week and played it for 20hrs since then because it was so good.

If I can earn my wage by slaying skeletons, searching for rare flowers or hunting some virtual deers then sign me up I guess. Although I wonder how fast it would get boring, you know, because of that whole "If transform your hobby into your job it can get boring pretty quickly"-thing.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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> You could pay to own some more blocks. Let's bring wealth-gaps to the metaverse, what could go wrong ;)

I was also advocating that people be able to make money by creating content that people visit. Perhaps schools can hand out blocks for citizenship, and for things like the Duke of Edinburgh Award, for time volunteering at an animal shelter or senior center. If you have ideas for how to "solve" the wealth gap, I'm all ears. Until then, I'm kind of stuck in that as a framework for how to solve problems.

That's quite a good idea, actually.

I usually don't like slippery slope arguments, but I wonder how slim the margin is between "hand out blocks for time volunteering at an animal shelter" and "if you don't behave how we want you to you don't get anything" aka. some form of social credit system.

But if it truly is used for good things that sounds very promising. I also like your idea of micropayments, so just people getting paid in the background when others visit or use their creations, sounds like a thing NFTs could achieve.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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post #296

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> You could pay to own some more blocks. Let's bring wealth-gaps to the metaverse, what could go wrong ;)

It's not like wealth-gaps will be left outside of any realistic metaverse (especially one made by FB, but not only that). If people treat it seriously, then it becomes linked with all the real world factors, and wealth is obviously one of those.

> It's not like wealth-gaps will be left outside of any realistic metaverse

Unfortunately, yeah. Would've been a chance to at least make it better virtually than how we handle these issues in real life, but I think humans will take their flaws with them wherever they go and whatever they do.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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I saw an article years back about MMO gold farmers, I think in Mexico. They sat in an air-conditioned room, and the wages were decent - they liked the job. If we can transfer wealth from people who have money but not time, to people somewhere else in the world, who have time but not money, then I'm calling that a good thing.

I downloaded an RPG last week and played it for 20hrs since then because it was so good. If I can earn my wage by slaying skeletons, searching for rare flowers or hunting some virtual deers then sign me up I guess. Although I wonder how fast it would get boring, you know, because of that whole "If transform your hobby into your job it can get boring pretty quickly"-thing.

My desperate hope is that we end up paying people for creative content. Not grinding.

I used to play D&D with a group of 8. We took turns being DM, but none of us were all that great at it. Well, picture how much we would pay to have someone else be our DM. $10 an hour? Could easily change someone's life, depending on the part of the world.

Picture mini games that are engaging.

Picture interacting with an NPC that has rich conversation trees. At some point, it's a novel or better.

I dunno, man, I hope we do a good job of rewarding creative people in the future, because I can't see how the value of manual labor will be above $0. Robots will replace everything that's not creative, and a lot of things that are.

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