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When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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Standards and building codes, the same sorts of reasons cars, except for a few visual design points, all have the same basic shape and look. Organizations, as well as home buyers, also look for resaleability and the ability to repurpose spaces — odd, though beautiful buildings are thought to be hard to sell, and specialized spaces are considered long-term detriments. Contemporary architecture is a monument to bureauc…

For every practical reason for the flat boxy look I’m sure alternative approaches can be worked out, but people have to want to do it first. As someone who is not a car owner I find it striking how functionally blind most people are to the ugliness of cars. Modern cars are designed to look well alone in a vast empty space, and that is how car ads pitch them. But when you see them racked and stacked bumper to bumper l…

>Modern cars are designed to look well alone in a vast empty space, and that is how car ads pitch them.

>Things are the way they are ostensibly for practical and aesthetic reasons, but none of those practical and aesthetic reasons really stand up under scrutiny because ultimately it is down to fashion.

That is wrong, they are all the same looking for aerodynamics since Obama told car manufacturers to make them more fuel efficient. Form follows function, its why they are all generic looking, they are greener, they have a crumple zone for safety, they are not designed round and generic looking for aesthetic reasons.

>The Obama Administration today finalized groundbreaking standards that will increase fuel economy to the equivalent of 54.5 mpg for cars and light-duty trucks by Model Year 2025.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2012/0...

The opposite is like Elon Musk asking a costume designer to design a spacesuit, then making engineer fit the function after (not efficient engineering design and in my opinion not very attractive suits either, they look like evil guards in movies). https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-design-spacex-spac...

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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This argument is ridiculous: Note: I have set aside for the purposes of this article the fact that our ugly buildings are all capitalistic megaprojects and thus we cannot change our design until we change our economic system. There are plenty of beautiful buildings being built today. Just because the Pritzker Prize isn't awarded to them because the panel awarding this prize believes in hideous monstrosities doesn't m…

The capitalistic megaprojects of, say, 1750-1930 were much more likely to be beautiful than the modern ones. Incredibly ornate banks and rail terminus stations. Beautiful brick, stone, and cast-iron apartment buildings. Towering stone offices. Even factory complexes were usually brick and had some amount of ornamentation [1][2]. I'm aware that there's a lot of survivorship bias supporting this view, but is there even a single modern factory building worth mentioning?

[1]: https://lostnewengland.com/2014/03/smith-wesson-factory-spri... [2]: https://sites.google.com/site/mnvhlc/home/brown-county/augus...

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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Ideas:

- revolutions in local democracy (when was last time you or anyone else voted on the local planning permissions / building code? When was last time we got opportunity to vote on layout of a town?

I live in a rapidly built new town, another thousand houses going up, everyone is moaning about and trying to petition something but the leverage is in the development corporation hands.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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post #63

This argument is ridiculous: Note: I have set aside for the purposes of this article the fact that our ugly buildings are all capitalistic megaprojects and thus we cannot change our design until we change our economic system. There are plenty of beautiful buildings being built today. Just because the Pritzker Prize isn't awarded to them because the panel awarding this prize believes in hideous monstrosities doesn't m…

The capitalistic megaprojects of, say, 1750-1930 were much more likely to be beautiful than the modern ones. Incredibly ornate banks and rail terminus stations. Beautiful brick, stone, and cast-iron apartment buildings. Towering stone offices. Even factory complexes were usually brick and had some amount of ornamentation [1][2]. I'm aware that there's a lot of survivorship bias supporting this view, but is there even…

> Even factory complexes were usually brick and had some amount of ornamentation

And these factories are often converted into exclusive apartments these days. Modern factories are instead torn down.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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TLDR:

Brutalism and Modernism are ugly, left is good, but left is associated with Brutalism.

Right is evil and filled with nazis and racists. Right is associated with nostalgia about beautiful things.

You can still be a leftist and admire beautiful things, provided that the architect you admire is not from the evil race.

Politics is making everything rot, even architecture.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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"...Alejandro Aravena’s Angelini Innovation Center, was called by the Pritzker jury “remarkably humane and inviting.” His work is “welcoming,” they say, and “deepens our understanding of what is truly great design.” When I read things like this, I feel like I must be of a different species to these jury members, ... "

Absolutely! It looks like the toilet block in a gulag.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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post #68

"...Alejandro Aravena’s Angelini Innovation Center, was called by the Pritzker jury “remarkably humane and inviting.” His work is “welcoming,” they say, and “deepens our understanding of what is truly great design.” When I read things like this, I feel like I must be of a different species to these jury members, ... " Absolutely! It looks like the toilet block in a gulag.

>Absolutely! It looks like the toilet block in a gulag.

Maybe the architects derived a sense of beauty from toilet blocks in a gulag.

Even though soviet architecture wasn't exactly beautiful, it wasn't as bad as most modern architecture.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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As a victim, I found it fascinating how many architecture students who loved classical aesthetics become thoroughly brainwashed into modern aesthetics at architecture school. In no small response to fact that architects generally has to work with the dominant building systems of the era. One learns to love and celebrate modernity through stockholm syndromne. As others have mentioned, ornamentation will come back once it can be done cheaply at scale, labour for such things are cost prohibitive unless you have a pool of underclass or willing to wait decades. It's why modern architecture focus on structural details, the kind of component assembling with very little "craft" but still expresses craftsmanship and a builders expertise.

As for vegetation, especially indoors. I dig it, but Changi Airport is a Singapore's jewel for a reason. It's the product of excess. Also at least from my understanding, the planting component of many projects fail hard.

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