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When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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Just wanted to say thanks for posting this, I loved this article. I certainly disagreed with the author on many points, but it was joyful for me to think about my own aesthetic that has been shaped by our times, and also to see some of the beautiful architecture in the article. Can someone identify the first photo of classic Islamic architecture? I love that style of architecture and art, both intricate and detailed…

It appears in this article on Persian architecture https://www.kooleh.com/persian-architecture/

I think it is in a mosque in Shiraz.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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I've seen enough revolution. I would be far more interested in an architectural counter-revolution, with the vendee marching on these modern monstrosities with pitch forks, torches and jackhammers.

Architectural revolutions come and go in steady cycles. This guy is of the post-modern school, which hates on the modern school. They do irrational nonsense just to make a point against rationalism. They post eg in /r/evilbuildings Modernism hated art-noveau and previous such schools, like baroque, and esp. rokoko (late baroque), the typical l'art pour l'art extremist schools. Nobody takes them too serious, so they g…

Wow I just looked up rococo and it's absolutely astounding and beautiful. I wish every building I walked into looked like those buildings, I feel like I'd just be happier even if it were merely cheap imitation.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardly any new houses are built with flat roofs. That trend is mostly dead. Commercial buildings still have flat roofs because they need a place to mount stuff like HVAC and antennas.

Here in Germany next to all new apartment buildings (usually 3-5 stories) have flat roofs.

Alas, in the US we are not as wise to the ways of steel-reinforced concrete construction as you guys are :(

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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So. Fucking. True.

The state of architecture is a disaster. Ever since Adolf Loos wrote “ornament is crime”, architects have booed anything decorative. We get textures, sure. Oh boy do we get textures. We get all the woods, all the stones, all the 3d printed concrete. Sculpture? Hell, no…

And no it’s not that expensive. When you build 234 park avenue, every apartment sells for $10m. maybe there is some of it that can go towards making things fun a little bit.

The worst part is even Modernist heroes like Corbusier and Wright did fun stuff. The Church at Ronchamp is weird and playful. And Wright’s blocky mayan influence is crazy and refreshing.

Not asking your everyday architect to change overnight, but the people who influence the profession, give the prizes and write the articles seriously need to change.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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I agree with the premise of the article but there’s also some survivorship bias at play. We know about (and don’t knock down) the particularly beautiful older buildings. If you go to New York City there’s beautiful stuff from the early 20th century (think Chrysler Building) and plenty of unremarkable stuff still standing (think pre-war walk ups). Maybe one in a hundred of the older buildings is remarkably beautiful.…

> Nothing on the scale of Grand Central for a public building has been attempted in a long time.

I am not a commuter in New York City, which may contribute to my difficulty in understanding this.

Because the Oculus Terminal looks very strange and elaborate to me, and is actually a train station. I think.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_Transport...

I've not been in that building, only seen photos. I find Grand Central Station to be beautiful in its way, and I very much like the grand terminal of the Los Angeles station, which was a surprise to me (it's featured, as the police station in an opening scene of the movie "Blade Runner".)

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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So. Fucking. True. The state of architecture is a disaster. Ever since Adolf Loos wrote “ornament is crime”, architects have booed anything decorative. We get textures, sure. Oh boy do we get textures. We get all the woods, all the stones, all the 3d printed concrete. Sculpture? Hell, no… And no it’s not that expensive. When you build 234 park avenue, every apartment sells for $10m. maybe there is some of it that can…

Every architect I've met is like a jaded COBOL programmer at the government that refuses to leave their niche because change increases the chances of you getting fired.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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I grew up in a place where new/flat/clean architecture was enviable. Lots. of. stucco. flipped. houses.

I now live in a log cabin (completely different location). None of the walls are straight and my interior doors sometimes do not close properly. I've come to love it all.

When I return to places with these perfect and completely uninteresting walls, I feel a newfound sense of dread. I sometimes doubt my ability to return to an office/cubicle setting anymore.

Re: When is the revolution in architecture coming?

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This misses a big point: highly skilled craftsmanship will never again be affordable on an architectural scale. So we'll have it again when it can all be done by machine. It costs human lives to build a Notre Dame, both in deaths and in total lifespan output, and as for Sagrada Familia it's still not complete. We now value human life and labor too much to be able to afford it. I personally can't wait to have detailed…

This is plain wrong.

Hamburg’s philarmony cost 900 million euros to build. That’s an awful lot of money. Architects decide to spend on structure and texture instead of decor. And with today’s machines, we actually could make all these intricate details without human intervention.

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