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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by exdsq »

aikinai wrote: post #385
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

How does that story have anything to do with being evil, by any stretch of the definition? Are you insinuating that Google has this convoluted verification flow to intentionally harm people in some way? Or even to intentionally harm privacy or further business goals at users' expense? Or are you just using "evil" to refer to anything you don't like?

It’s a false reason to collect more data by holding your Gmail hostage until you provide a phone number. It is a pretty shitty user flow with no benefit except for their data collection.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by userbinator »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #387
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

Once upon a time not long ago, I got off from my flight into a foreign country (I don't have a SIM card that would work there). I turned on my wifi and was delighted to see they had a public network you can use. There was a captive portal, and the only sign in options (besides using a local phone number) were Facebook and Google. I chose Google, and entered my id and password. Google promptly went into the "sus" mode…

That's when you turn on the DNS tunnel (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7619259 ). If they somehow detect that and try to block, change your MAC and repeat. Those bastards deserve it for trying to force users into megacorps' services.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by unethical_ban »

jraph wrote: post #182

Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community. Many open source / free software enthusiasts are reluctant to use them, or flat out boycott them. What's more, you are putting your worthy community somewhere out of your control if you do this. Slack and Discord are not cool and do not make your project cool. They make your project unreachable , now and in the future (arch…

People who bemoan Slack and Discord have never used MS Teams or tried to bring multiple friend groups together on Mumble.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by FpUser »

sildur wrote: post #411
FpUser wrote: post #367

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>"Never doing any buissness with ms again." No github for you then ;)

Well, gitlab is way better. Github is the Facebook of developers.

I self host my repositories. In this way I do not care about either. But when I am searching for code Github proves to be very good source. I would not say that projects hosted on Gitlab are any better

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by julianlam »

curun1r wrote: post #439
gizdan wrote: post #222

I just wish people would use a system that's integrated into where the code is. I don't want to have to register for a forum when GitHub has a perfectly good ticketing system (and now discussions), and yet I have to register at another place where my details can be leaked from because who knows the technical capability of this one single person who may or may not have done any security. If it's a company, please have…

I’m a believer in just creating a subreddit. It’s free and easy, many people already have Reddit accounts and it’s a much better forum than the ones that would be self-hosted, including moderation tooling and bot ecosystem. The threaded discussions are also better than what Github offers.

I agree that subreddits have a very low barrier to entry, but all that comes at a cost. Among other things, one of those costs is that your content is no longer owned by you.

Should Reddit decide to take itself private, or make ethically questionable decisions, etc., you are locked in due to the networking effect.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by hackmiester »

OJFord wrote: post #192
jedberg wrote: post #130

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The SIM has its own phone number, so when they put it in a phone they can do "phone" things like make calls. In their laptop it's just for data.

Or to be really pedantic, 'is currently assigned a particular' phone number. Since you can change phone number without changing SIM (I don't know if it's global, but in the UK you just text a certain number for a transfer 'PAC' code) and clone them.

It's harder than that in the US, but it's possible. Mostly it depends on the carrier's policy.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by julianlam »

vultour wrote: post #265
jraph wrote: post #182

Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community. Many open source / free software enthusiasts are reluctant to use them, or flat out boycott them. What's more, you are putting your worthy community somewhere out of your control if you do this. Slack and Discord are not cool and do not make your project cool. They make your project unreachable , now and in the future (arch…

Are you going to host and maintain the forums for them? I'm not a fan of this particular use case for Discord but it's pretty much the easiest solution to online discussions that's currently available.

NodeBB can, for qualified open source projects. I think some other softwares also offer similar deals for open source projects, especially those with a following.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by Decabytes »

This is something that the Racket community has faced. We have an active discord, but the search ability is not great. We also have a mailing list, but have been getting increasing amounts of spam.

Hopefully the Discourse forum that was created in the past few days will solve this [1]

1. https://racket.discourse.group/

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by subhro »

jedberg wrote: post #70

Oh please do. This seems like the perfect time to bring this up: I had a piece of software that used Discord for support. They required that users be verified, which requires you to give you phone number to Discord. I gave them my Google Voice number, which is the only number I have, and they rejected it because they don't support VOIP numbers. I asked them if there was any other way to verify my identity. They told…

https://www.burnerapp.com/ ?

Note: no affiliation, just a satisfied user. Also, not free.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by skinnymuch »

tapland wrote: post #422
sergiotapia wrote: post #382

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I own two fairly popular github projects (2.4k and 500 stars) - I have a Discord server. What do you recommend for me? I don't want to spend a penny on hosting this since it's a for fun project.

I think just putting g some effort I to keeping a FAQ on the repo up to date with things people run into and post on discord is a great solution.

Are you saying make the FAQ. and that will make the Disord unnecessary? New stuff always comes up. This doesn’t seem right
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