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Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by wolverine876 »

hereforphone wrote: post #9
blakesterz wrote: post #7

> I like to board last. I’ve never understood the appeal of being on the plane any longer than I need too (I’m yet to travel in business class). I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? Maybe he just never has a bag, but the reason should be obvious regardless.

I'm the same. I stand around until the last minute. We're all getting there at the same time, and I'd rather be standing because soon I have to sit for hours. My bag fits nicely under the seat in front of me.

I board late or last, and I almost always find overhead space. Also, these days I don't want to stand on a crowded jetway.

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by The-Bus »

paxys wrote: post #6

So, take a single data point (price for an economy seat 6 months in advance), add on a hundred different assumptions with zero backing data (% capacity filled? Different seat classes? Fluctuation in ticket prices? Connecting routes?), and present it as some deep analysis.

What I find interesting is that the writer goes through the trouble of answering a question that OAG has already answered[1], and he uses OAG as a source.

1: https://www.oag.com/blog/billion-dollar-route-jewels-in-the-...

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by warent »

sharkmerry wrote: post #58
blakesterz wrote: post #7

> I like to board last. I’ve never understood the appeal of being on the plane any longer than I need too (I’m yet to travel in business class). I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? Maybe he just never has a bag, but the reason should be obvious regardless.

>> I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? I think most are doing it for the overhead space, which leads to my misunderstanding. Why did they charge for checked bags. Its the more time-consuming option, who would pay for that. they should be charging for overhead and offering checked bags for free. Pay for the time-saving

Great point I hadn't considered that before!

I'd guess it's for two primary reasons. 1: it takes workers to load and unload checked bags. Contrast to overhead where you are doing the work. 2: checked bags are pretty much unlimited. You can have several huge ones.

For some reason I was also under the impression that a checked bag was actually opened up and rummaged thru as well, hence the word "checked", but maybe I've just been misunderstanding?

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by midasuni »

blakesterz wrote: post #7

> I like to board last. I’ve never understood the appeal of being on the plane any longer than I need too (I’m yet to travel in business class). I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? Maybe he just never has a bag, but the reason should be obvious regardless.

I like to board when I get to the gate, which I’ll usually leave late if it’s not too far as it’s comfier in the lounge, and I’ve been caught out by “boarding” messages when the plane isn’t even there too many times.

Get on board, have a champagne, look at the menu, give the IFE a cursory glance to see if there any interesting new releases on

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by midasuni »

ethbr0 wrote: post #21
hereforphone wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the same. I stand around until the last minute. We're all getting there at the same time, and I'd rather be standing because soon I have to sit for hours. My bag fits nicely under the seat in front of me.

I flew most domestic US when I was in the air, and rarely did I need more than under-seat sized. If you have a garment bag, I suppose that's a consideration, but I remember there always being "lay on top" free space in the overheads, even if full of bags.

How long were you away? I’ll fit a couple of weeks in my standard bag easilly, plus electronics etc. In my under seat sized bag I’d only really get 3 days worth.

Besides you can’t put stuff under seat in the exit row.

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by csteubs »

flavius29663 wrote: post #52
csteubs wrote: post #20

There's still money on the table for airline operators where routes are concerned. It sounds a bit fringe, but most of these flights take off and land at airports in large cities. International airports are often zoned around industrial centers that are typically set off away from the city core. Coupled with the high frequency of inbound and outbound traffic depending on the airport, commercial flights are excellent…

This is a fascinating idea, congrats. I see major issues with the existing planes: they do not seem designed to be retrofitted with down facing cameras. Also, near real time HiRes images means a lot of bandwidth that you don't usually have in the air.

Thank you! You're correct about (most) existing planes--from what I understand, there was a "gentleman's agreement" between cold war powers that kept manufacturers from pursuing those designs. Since 2000, many models have added onboard cameras on the belly and tail for pilot awareness and in-flight entertainment systems.

Our system is 100% internal which allows us to sidestep massive expense that comes with tunnel testing, retrofit, maintenance, etc. Customers using our Beta receive free in-flight wifi for recording out of their window seat for short increments during their flight. We cache the previous image and compare with the new image on the device itself, transmitting only the raw diff which dramatically lowers our bandwidth needs. All orthorectification and advance photogrammetry occurs on-ground, but we outsource a ton of that processing to the edge device.

We're also designing a physical hardware camera array that can be fixed to the window and is about the size of a headphone case. If you're interested in examples, our social media accounts are full of them: https://www.instagram.com/notasatellite/

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by celticninja »

blakesterz wrote: post #7

> I like to board last. I’ve never understood the appeal of being on the plane any longer than I need too (I’m yet to travel in business class). I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? Maybe he just never has a bag, but the reason should be obvious regardless.

I have also never understood the rush to get on. In the past space in the overhead lockers was not an issue (because flights were not nickel and diming passengers for every little thing), but people still rushed to get on asap back then.

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by toast0 »

warent wrote: post #63
sharkmerry wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? I think most are doing it for the overhead space, which leads to my misunderstanding. Why did they charge for checked bags. Its the more time-consuming option, who would pay for that. they should be charging for overhead and offering checked bags for free. Pay for the time-saving

Great point I hadn't considered that before! I'd guess it's for two primary reasons. 1: it takes workers to load and unload checked bags. Contrast to overhead where you are doing the work. 2: checked bags are pretty much unlimited. You can have several huge ones. For some reason I was also under the impression that a checked bag was actually opened up and rummaged thru as well, hence the word "checked", but maybe I'v…

I think it's checked in, as in you gave it to some one. Not checked in as in someone checked in it. That's not to say they don't get rumaged through, but they were checked bags before they got routinely rumaged.

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by celticninja »

warent wrote: post #63
sharkmerry wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? I think most are doing it for the overhead space, which leads to my misunderstanding. Why did they charge for checked bags. Its the more time-consuming option, who would pay for that. they should be charging for overhead and offering checked bags for free. Pay for the time-saving

Great point I hadn't considered that before! I'd guess it's for two primary reasons. 1: it takes workers to load and unload checked bags. Contrast to overhead where you are doing the work. 2: checked bags are pretty much unlimited. You can have several huge ones. For some reason I was also under the impression that a checked bag was actually opened up and rummaged thru as well, hence the word "checked", but maybe I'v…

Checked means checked in, or handed over. Not checked as in inspected. Whilst some bags may be inspected they are a small number of the total.

Re: Billion-dollar airline routes

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Post by devilbunny »

warent wrote: post #63
sharkmerry wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I don't understand that opening at all. We all want to get on so we get space in the overhead bins, don't we? I think most are doing it for the overhead space, which leads to my misunderstanding. Why did they charge for checked bags. Its the more time-consuming option, who would pay for that. they should be charging for overhead and offering checked bags for free. Pay for the time-saving

Great point I hadn't considered that before! I'd guess it's for two primary reasons. 1: it takes workers to load and unload checked bags. Contrast to overhead where you are doing the work. 2: checked bags are pretty much unlimited. You can have several huge ones. For some reason I was also under the impression that a checked bag was actually opened up and rummaged thru as well, hence the word "checked", but maybe I'v…

TSA certainly may search your bag, but they're "checked" bags in the sense that coats are "checked" into a coatroom - they are handed over to someone else to be delivered to you later.
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