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Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by Mindwipe »

skyeto wrote: post #5
krageon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't own the game, you own a license to play it for however long the publisher wants. Whether or not it is legal really shouldn't matter, it should just be done as a matter of course for such games.

Wouldn't that depend on local laws? My assumption is that it would be covered by the recent EU court ruling that allows reverse engineering to fix bugs[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28809559

It definitely would not be because that ruling does not overrule other bits of legislation, such as the prohibition against distribution or importation of tools to circumvent technical protection measure that all EU countries have.

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by kayson »

Has anyone ever done an a analysis on whether Denuvo (or DRM in general) is actually a wise investment of capital? I imagine it probably does have some impact on early sales in that it will prevent early customers from pirating to try it rather than buying it. But at the same time, you have things like Steam's return policy, the general dislike of DRM, and the publicity/image cost when something happens preventing everyone from playing the game. Not to mention that it seems inevitable these days that it either gets cracked or removed by the publisher anyway.

I always wonder if the resources spent on Denuvo would be better spent on the game itself, or marketing the game, allowing the so-inclined to pirate it more easily at launch, but offsetting that with better sales overall driven by better reception, more word of mouth, etc.

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by JCWasmx86 »

kuroguro wrote: post #13
JCWasmx86 wrote: post #4

If I understand correctly: If I had been fast enough to buy this domain, I would be able to break Denuvo for a long time?

Most registrars have a grace period of 30-40 days, where the original owner can still reclaim it IIRC.

> Following the failure to renew, the domain then went into a grace period but when that expired too, it appears to have been removed from DNS records.

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by bool3max »

kayson wrote: post #12

Has anyone ever done an a analysis on whether Denuvo (or DRM in general) is actually a wise investment of capital? I imagine it probably does have some impact on early sales in that it will prevent early customers from pirating to try it rather than buying it. But at the same time, you have things like Steam's return policy, the general dislike of DRM, and the publicity/image cost when something happens preventing ev…

If it wasn't a vise investment, publishers and developers of AAA titles wouldn't invest in it. But they do.

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by kuroguro »

JCWasmx86 wrote: post #14
kuroguro wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most registrars have a grace period of 30-40 days, where the original owner can still reclaim it IIRC.

> Following the failure to renew, the domain then went into a grace period but when that expired too, it appears to have been removed from DNS records.

Oh wow, didn't see that. How did nobody notice...

Well there should still be a redemption and "pending delete" period [0]. I believe the original owner can still reclaim during those.

[0] https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/glossary/expired-dom...

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by whoopdedo »

mschuster91 wrote: post #6

> After sending a set of questions to two of our usual contacts at the company, we received a pair of automated emails stating that our correspondence was “undeliverable”, that the messages had been “bounced by administrator” and as a result had permanently failed. Wtf? What ever happened to journalistic principles like protecting your sources?!

The emails were forwarded to "support@codefusion.technology"

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by logfromblammo »

bool3max wrote: post #15
kayson wrote: post #12

Has anyone ever done an a analysis on whether Denuvo (or DRM in general) is actually a wise investment of capital? I imagine it probably does have some impact on early sales in that it will prevent early customers from pirating to try it rather than buying it. But at the same time, you have things like Steam's return policy, the general dislike of DRM, and the publicity/image cost when something happens preventing ev…

If it wasn't a vise investment, publishers and developers of AAA titles wouldn't invest in it. But they do.

This assumes that companies do not make unwise investments, when counterexamples are legion.

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by lrae »

JCWasmx86 wrote: post #4

If I understand correctly: If I had been fast enough to buy this domain, I would be able to break Denuvo for a long time?

No, it never fully dropped.

> Updated Date: 2021-11-08T14:45:58Z

> Creation Date: 2014-09-24T14:45:19Z

> Registry Expiry Date: 2022-09-24T14:45:19Z

Re: Denuvo-Protected Games Rendered Unplayable After Domain Expires

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Post by hota_mazi »

kayson wrote: post #12

Has anyone ever done an a analysis on whether Denuvo (or DRM in general) is actually a wise investment of capital? I imagine it probably does have some impact on early sales in that it will prevent early customers from pirating to try it rather than buying it. But at the same time, you have things like Steam's return policy, the general dislike of DRM, and the publicity/image cost when something happens preventing ev…

The "general dislike of DRM" is a non issue because it's only shared by a minuscule portion of game players. And most of those who have a dislike for DRM still won't let that get in the way of them playing a game they really want to play at release time.

Denuvo seems to be extremely effective at delaying piracy for a few months, during which the publishers of the game make most of their sales.

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