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Blind people won the right to break eBook DRM, but they'll have to do it again

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Re: Blind people won the right to break eBook DRM, but they'll have to do it again

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Post by matheusmoreira »

laserlight wrote: post #13

> Although the exemption protects people who circumvent digital copyright protections for the sake of accessibility — by using third-party programs to lift text and save it in a different file format, for example — that it's even necessary strikes many as a fundamental injustice. This is not only an injustice, but also a stupidity. What I do with something I paid for should concern only me as long as it's within my p…

Yeah. This is what happens when laws are bought and paid for by corporations through lobbying. Their concerns just override all common sense.

Re: Blind people won the right to break eBook DRM, but they'll have to do it again

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Post by hkt »

helloworld11 wrote: post #18
thaumasiotes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

libgen for books. The pirate bay theoretically covers everything, but good luck finding books there.

Libgen is great for older literature and non-fiction books of all kinds, but for modern fiction it sucks.

Really? What have you struggled to find? I've found libgen enormously helpful.

Re: Blind people won the right to break eBook DRM, but they'll have to do it again

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Post by patrec »

helloworld11 wrote: post #17

Fuck having to ask for the "right". If they bought their digital books, they should absolutely be free to do whatever they like with them for personal usability. I can understand the legal rights position here, revolving around bringing attention to the issue of these idiotic rules, but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no. The absurdity of DRM laws is really made…

> but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no

Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you? I sometimes get the impression that intelligent technical people on HN can't see ahead 5 minutes into the future, because being a peon without rights is something that conflicts with their self image as some technical sophisticate not subject to the same insults by our overlords as lowly non-techies. But your relative technical sophistication just means you'll lose some basic control over your privacy, data and possessions at t+ε rather than t.

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Post by Kye »

patrec wrote: post #23
helloworld11 wrote: post #17

Fuck having to ask for the "right". If they bought their digital books, they should absolutely be free to do whatever they like with them for personal usability. I can understand the legal rights position here, revolving around bringing attention to the issue of these idiotic rules, but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no. The absurdity of DRM laws is really made…

> but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you? I sometimes get the impression that intelligent technical people on HN can't see ahead 5 minutes into the future, because being a peon without rights is something that conflicts with their self image as some technical sophisticate not subject to…

Asking as a non-sophisticate who has a mental block on most math education beyond 2nd grade: what does t+ε mean?

edit: HN would rate limit me if I tried to reply to each explanation with thanks, so: thanks!

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Post by nemetroid »

patrec wrote: post #23
helloworld11 wrote: post #17

Fuck having to ask for the "right". If they bought their digital books, they should absolutely be free to do whatever they like with them for personal usability. I can understand the legal rights position here, revolving around bringing attention to the issue of these idiotic rules, but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no. The absurdity of DRM laws is really made…

> but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you? I sometimes get the impression that intelligent technical people on HN can't see ahead 5 minutes into the future, because being a peon without rights is something that conflicts with their self image as some technical sophisticate not subject to…

> Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you?

For as long as my reader can decrypt ebooks locally.

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Post by xiconfjs »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #10
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the pirate bay & friends.

libgen for books. The pirate bay theoretically covers everything, but good luck finding books there.

Try these Libgen proxy/mirror links:

http://libgen.gs/ (NEW – November 2020)

http://gen.lib.rus.ec

http://libgen.rs – (NEW – October 2020).

https://libgen.is – (Working Again – May 2021).

http://libgen.st – (Re-directs to www.libgen.rs).

http://libgen.li

https://libgen.lc

http://libgen.io/ (No longer working).

https://libgen.be/ (NEW – September 2020 – Search proxies to www.libgen.rs).

https://libgen.nl/ (NEW – September 2020 – Search proxies to www.libgen.rs).

If you are having trouble reaching with above Libgen URLs, try http://93.174.95.27 or http://185.39.10.101.

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Post by cyberbanjo »

Kye wrote: post #24
patrec wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you? I sometimes get the impression that intelligent technical people on HN can't see ahead 5 minutes into the future, because being a peon without rights is something that conflicts with their self image as some technical sophisticate not subject to…

Asking as a non-sophisticate who has a mental block on most math education beyond 2nd grade: what does t+ε mean? edit: HN would rate limit me if I tried to reply to each explanation with thanks, so: thanks!

Time + Elapsed Time. AKA not now, but eventually

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Post by NoahTheDuke »

werkjohann wrote: post #7

This is terrible, and while IANAL I’m confused why it doesn’t fall under ADA requirements to provide accessible versions of materials - especially school materials. Also, can people really claim with a straight face that running a book through text-to-speech is the same as a real audiobook (that’s often a voice actor, right?)?

I listened to all of Worm (https://parahumans.wordpress.com/) with TTS and while it wasn’t ideal, it worked out well enough that I got a full understanding of the story. I’ll note that I did this before the fan podcast to read the whole story lol. That’s a much better option now.

Re: Blind people won the right to break eBook DRM, but they'll have to do it again

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Post by moron4hire »

Kye wrote: post #24
patrec wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but if I buy ebooks, i'll just go ahead and strip their DRM without giving a damn who says no Yeah, dream on. How long do you think this option will stay available to you? I sometimes get the impression that intelligent technical people on HN can't see ahead 5 minutes into the future, because being a peon without rights is something that conflicts with their self image as some technical sophisticate not subject to…

Asking as a non-sophisticate who has a mental block on most math education beyond 2nd grade: what does t+ε mean? edit: HN would rate limit me if I tried to reply to each explanation with thanks, so: thanks!

Current (t)ime plus some hand-waiving (ε) Epsilon of change in time.
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