Telegram clients are open source. Whats preventing people from patching out ads out of their clients ?
Nothing, probably, but the vast majority of the 500m MAU all but certainly use the official client, rather than a homebrewed one.
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#112Telegram clients are open source. Whats preventing people from patching out ads out of their clients ?
1. Too much of hassle for most people out there.
2. (hypothetical) desire to keep Telegram afloat? I would rather pay a recurring fee though than get ads, but if the choice would be "Telegram with ads" vs "No Telegram at all" (if they run out of money), I would prefer the former option.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes telegram is so much better than WA from a customer's point of view. The best thing I like about it is that it's an instant setup on every phone and doesn't require the Google backup integration which can take an hour to restore. Also the fact I can run it on multiple devices simultaneously is also kind of a big deal. Their API is also pretty amazing tbh. I wish all my friends were on tg instead of wa and i would…
> I wish all my friends were on tg Just send them all a message that you prefer to be contacted on Telegram now. That works surprisingly well, so many people are on the fence waiting for somebody else to make the first move.
That's what I did, then deleted WA account. Worked fine. Everyone I cared about came over. It also lowered my noise.
What I think is interesting is that the barrier to entry to join a new messaging service like Telegram is very small. The barrier to leave WA is very high. So to ask people to join Telegram and continue to run WA is trivial for them.
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#114How about instead, you offer me the ability to buy into your platform? Offer me the ability to use the platform, and pay a monthly fee, as opposed to seeing ads.
Popularity of a messenger hinges on it being free, and viability of ad-driven business model hinges on popularity. Meanwhile, ad-driven model is a much more comfortable and reliable source of profit (since you are popular and free, users won’t leave, so no need to work hard fighting for customers). Imagine if instead of three whales we had a variety of paid messengers, all forced to interoperate with each other and o…
I dont care how many customers the whales can support or whether they interoperate.
I'll happily pay to support not just my client but who ever wants to connect to me. This is not some big yearly cost given how cheap hardware and bandwith have become.
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#115Any Telegram users here? I've only ever heard it used when talking about batshit American cults. Not exactly a target audience i want to reach.
> Any Telegram users here? Telegram vs Whatsapp use today is sort of a Shibboleth. Those who only use Whatsapp are typically lax about privacy and security, whereas Telegram users typically take these thing seriously. So those who target the vulnerable are definitely focusing on Whatsapp right now. The self-selection is working very well in Telegram's favour, though that probably is just a happy side effect.
>whereas Telegram users typically take these thing seriously.
And yet they don't mind the lack of encryption?
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#116Telegram clients are open source. Whats preventing people from patching out ads out of their clients ?
To receive push notifications for iOS/Android apps, you need to upload your developer keys (!!!) to Telegram push server. So they can ban clients that disable advertising.
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#117Telegram clients are open source. Whats preventing people from patching out ads out of their clients ?
Telegram blocks attempts like these by saying that doing that kind of stuff is against TOS. Then they can use that excuse to have apps taken down from the play store/app store.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Matrix is, unfortunately, a UX catastrophe compared to Telegram. Telegram has the best messaging app by UX and it's not even close. It's fast, reliable and it just works. Try getting your mother to use Matrix. Verifying sessions of chat participants is such a disgusting user experience I wonder if they employ /any/ graphic or UX designers.
Matrix is an open protocol and anyone's welcome to build a front-end, inspired by Telegram, that your mother would be happy using. Perhaps you meant the Element client?
Matrix is not a protocol, it's a product. Its openness is more like a public API to a product developed by one organization.
Disclosure: I work with real open protocols.
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#119>Telegram will not show promotional messages in your chat list, private conversations or groups. Advertising will affect only large channels - services where there is already advertising, and the support of which leads to the greatest costs on the part of Telegram.
That's really, really great. :)
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#120> Turn off ad blocker
> You appear to be using an ad blocker that may prevent pages on the Telegram Ad Platform from working as expected.
> Please turn off your ad blocker or add promote.telegram.org as an exception to manage your promoted messages. > Close
Oh, well ^^
I was a Telegram user for year until I completely switched to Signal 2.5 years ago.
I'd pay 1-10€ a year for a Telegram experience with e2e and without ads.
Why can't the old WA model be used ?