Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
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Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#2There's the perennial problem with such polls in that people have serious doubts about whether incurring costs for environmental reasons will actually accomplish the objective.
An awful lot of environmental rules simply export the problem but do nothing to stop it.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#3What do we need to change this?
Education?
Behavioral Hacking?
More discussion ejection seat buzzwords?
Surplus Resources produced by cornucopia machinery?
Governments that are resistant to bribery and clan-think(aka human nature)?
Or a virus that drastically reduces economic dynamics and individual exertions? Can in a dysfunctional society and system, a virus be considered a valid policy, to prevent far greater dangers through suicidal economic policies?
Does the need of the many yet to come outweigh the need of those present?
Just doing the devils advocate here. In the longterm im guessing it needs cornucopia to kick the can of worms further down the road.
To change humanity, fix all the hardcoded brain-bugs and de-faulty heuristics, alot more has to happen. Just some dopamine-milk machine in the cellphone will not change moohmanity.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#4I'm not surprised. Trying to rely on people to voluntarily change their behaviour while leaving companies to seemingly do whatever they want without consequences is a terrible idea. Why should people sacrifice their lifestyle while large corporations continue to make cheap, disposable goods and waste resources anyway? What's the incentive to consume less and change our lifestyles if leaders/celebrities/billionaires just fly to conferences in private jets at a whim, and waste such resources at an immense scale anyway?
Plus... saying things is easy. Actually doing things differently are not.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#5There's no way I'm changing my lifestyle so a bunch of PH.Ds and tenured Profs can retire on the Costa del Sol.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#6What you mean the rich and famous won't stop owning a dozen cars and a private plane, because of climate change?
Not surprising. We hear stories all the time about airports being full of private planes at climate conferences. People didn't exactly carpool to g20
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#7I'm not surprised. Trying to rely on people to voluntarily change their behaviour while leaving companies to seemingly do whatever they want without consequences is a terrible idea. Why should people sacrifice their lifestyle while large corporations continue to make cheap, disposable goods and waste resources anyway? What's the incentive to consume less and change our lifestyles if leaders/celebrities/billionaires j…
Yeah, it's the wrong question, and thus a distraction from getting the problem solved. Instead they should have asked "Do you support a tax on the top 1% of polluters, which is paid as a dividend to the bottom 99%?"
I suppose that might have the unintended consequence / cobra effect of making people want the top 1% to pollute more, so they get a bigger dividend payment, but, on the other hand, I don't think that the top 1% care about what the rest of us want, so their only incentive will be to reduce their tax burden.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#8What do we need to change this? Education? Behavioral Hacking? More discussion ejection seat buzzwords? Surplus Resources produced by cornucopia machinery? Governments that are resistant to bribery and clan-think(aka human nature)? Or a virus that drastically reduces economic dynamics and individual exertions? Can in a dysfunctional society and system, a virus be considered a valid policy, to prevent far greater dang…
We need the technology.
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#9... most importantly, all of the "world leaders" at the "climate summits".
Re: Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds
#10The current divide on coronavirus measures seems fairly similar to me, just with the speed dial turned up.
Current climate chat is about social distancing and lockdowns. We need it to be about antivirals, vaccines, immunity etc.
Basically, how do we fix this, not what do we do to hide from it for a bit.
It is unsustainable to suggest that everyone just restricts their lifestyle forever in an endless loop.