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Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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This always seems like such a good idea to me. Like walking around a busy city bustling with people all around. But then I realize I would never use it. The idea of broadcasting my browsing habits page by page to a third party is creepy beyond belief.

That's exactly why SiteChat is anonymous and doesn't save _anything_ on the server! :)

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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This always seems like such a good idea to me. Like walking around a busy city bustling with people all around. But then I realize I would never use it. The idea of broadcasting my browsing habits page by page to a third party is creepy beyond belief.

That's exactly why SiteChat is anonymous and doesn't save _anything_ on the server! :)

While I give the author the benefit of the doubt he or she has every intent to respect privacy, if I really care about my own privacy I should do what I can to protect it myself before I place my trust in a third party.

It's like revealing my own secret to someone and telling them not to tell anyone else. I have the most to lose if my secret is revealed. If that isn't enough for me to keep it to myself what is preventing anyone else from revealing it?

Because I don't care to let people follow my browsing behavior site by site, I had better not broadcast it to begin with.

EDIT: I should add, I do have some initial doubts about the anonymity guarantees in this extension. Is all traffic encrypted? Can I be sure nothing is getting unintentionally logged by say a forgotten debug statement or server request logs? I've seen credit card numbers turn up in Apache access logs. Is my IP actually obscured from others or is it merely my name? Even Tor is hesitant to guarantee anonymity.

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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Is it me or do I see a "add a live chat room to every website!" startup/idea every 6 months, either by apps, HTML framesets, whatever, then followed by press saying it will change the world/internet/whatever, then I never hear about it again. Perhaps nobody actually wants an anonymous chat room on every site :P

Having implemented something similar a couple years ago, (http://www.metacomments.com/), I would say you're right. People post a comment or two, then never use it again.

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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_why was one of the first to implement this, in 2005. It wasn't a chat, but a comment system for hackers. The installation instructions were intentionaly elusive: http://web.archive.org/web/20051125122020/http://hoodwinkd.h... The IP adresses point to DNS servers that serve two custom domains: hoodwink.d and ___._ (or you could add them to your host file? not sure...). From there you could browse those sites that had…

> _why was one of the first to implement this, in 2005.

FWIW, I remember quite a few startups doing this around 1999. It's a very old idea.

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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If a large % of Facebook users used this, it would quickly become unusable on the site. Any ideas about handling large usage - separate people out into smaller manageable groups by IP/geo/other?

At present, if a large % of my apartment building used this, it would quickly trash my server ;). My intention is to just see how things develop, and if I need to upgrade servers and write some more intelligent routing, then I absolutely will. :)

Sweet app man!

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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_why was one of the first to implement this, in 2005. It wasn't a chat, but a comment system for hackers. The installation instructions were intentionaly elusive: http://web.archive.org/web/20051125122020/http://hoodwinkd.h... The IP adresses point to DNS servers that serve two custom domains: hoodwink.d and ___._ (or you could add them to your host file? not sure...). From there you could browse those sites that had…

Hoodwink'd was a fun project. You really felt like you were sneaking around the interwebs, leaving comments and sharing links to a tiny community.

I also have a theory that many of _why's (earliest) most known projects were created because of Hoodwink'd. He needed a web framework, so he wrote Camping. He wanted to write the HTML in Ruby, so he wrote Markaby. In order to inject the hoodwinks into the web page you need a proxy, so he wrote mouseHole. And he wanted a simple way to search and replace HTML in the proxy, so he wrote Hpricot. It's all one big family…

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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Is it me or do I see a "add a live chat room to every website!" startup/idea every 6 months, either by apps, HTML framesets, whatever, then followed by press saying it will change the world/internet/whatever, then I never hear about it again. Perhaps nobody actually wants an anonymous chat room on every site :P

You're probably right. Does anyone remember Google Sidewiki? http://www.google.com/sidewiki

It's not exactly a chat, but still very similar. At the time it was seen with excitement, but I'm not sure how many people still use it. I, for example, uninstalled it after a few days.

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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_why was one of the first to implement this, in 2005. It wasn't a chat, but a comment system for hackers. The installation instructions were intentionaly elusive: http://web.archive.org/web/20051125122020/http://hoodwinkd.h... The IP adresses point to DNS servers that serve two custom domains: hoodwink.d and ___._ (or you could add them to your host file? not sure...). From there you could browse those sites that had…

Hoodwink'd was a fun project. You really felt like you were sneaking around the interwebs, leaving comments and sharing links to a tiny community. I also have a theory that many of _why's (earliest) most known projects were created because of Hoodwink'd. He needed a web framework, so he wrote Camping. He wanted to write the HTML in Ruby, so he wrote Markaby. In order to inject the hoodwinks into the web page you need…

This reminds me of the first camping announcement.

He spent perhaps half an hour, probably more, frantically adding surrealist images to the post. I imagined him excited as a kid, stuck in a creativity rut. Good memories.

Do you know how long it took him to write Camping?

Re: Chrome Extension that adds anonymous live chat to every site you're browsing.

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Is it me or do I see a "add a live chat room to every website!" startup/idea every 6 months, either by apps, HTML framesets, whatever, then followed by press saying it will change the world/internet/whatever, then I never hear about it again. Perhaps nobody actually wants an anonymous chat room on every site :P

I remember something like this from close to 10 years ago. My memory is vague, but I remember a program that offered to let me chat with other users on sites I was visiting. I also remember there was never anyone else with the program on any of the sites I visited.
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