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Stakeholder != Owner Yes, parents have a role. Yes, parents have a stake. They are not exclusive in this.
Is there a better definition of who “owns” a school other than the public tax payers?
Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
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Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
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It's just not extremely religious parents, and comparing them to Taliban says a lot about you. And who should dictate what kind of material school teach? Who should decide that this is benefitial to children and that is a harmful propaganda? Parents should have a say, because they are well, parents.
Attempted insurrection in January. Texas SB8. Various anti-trans policies. Conjured up CRT bogeyman. The list goes on and on. If you don’t see parallels between fundamentalist Christians in the US and other religious extremists and their authoritarian leaders elsewhere, I don’t know what to say.
Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
#53Hope this isn't too off topic: I've noticed increasingly in the past few years, news article headlines of this exact form: . Then . Personally it often feels like clickbait to the point that the title feels like a disservice to the actual content. But what I'm interested in is - is this a particular person's style of writing? Or is it actually a trend?
I see it as the author trying to force a point of view on you.
"Parents reverse-engineered a school app to create their own frontend to parent data and, after being hit with a $4M SEK fine for data privacy issues on the platform already, school officials escalated concerns over it to the police to investigate who eventually cleared the parents of wrongdoing and now the school is working to license the app from the parents so everyone can use it"
Is a much less catchy headline. It's also far more verbose. What parts of you choose to whittle out to create a succinct headline drives people's perceptions of the actual article.
"Parents built a school app that was so successful that the school is now licensing it!"
It's just as true, but, you start with a much different conclusion.
Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
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The problem is parents want to pass on their own brainwashing down to their children. Like teaching creationism or that slaveowners were good people. Creating more brainwashed citizens hurts all of us.
You should attend your local PTA meeting if this what you think parents are trying to pass down.
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As a parent of five kids, I think the problem is in many districts, the schools do not want to collaborate with the parents. In fact, it seems like whenever possible, the schools do things to make it harder for parents to collaborate, especially on actual education: * Objectives are rarely published so parents can understand what is being taught. * Common core math makes it impossible for parents who did not learn co…
Why should pupils be barred from learning math and science just because the parents did not enjoy sufficient education? It's one of the core tasks of the school system to ensure that pupils do not suffer disadvantages from their parent's educational background.
In the US we changed how math is taught about 10 years ago. 1 + 1 is still equal to two, but the children are taught an entire new methodology for calculation. I'm a nuclear engineer and had to re-learn how to do basic maths just to be able to help my children when they struggle with basic arithmetic.
To be honest, the new system (called common core) is incredibly complex and emphasizes proof of work over accuracy and understanding. It is supposed to lead to a better understanding of math. In reality, it's just really complex and difficult to learn.
Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
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As a parent of five kids, I think the problem is in many districts, the schools do not want to collaborate with the parents. In fact, it seems like whenever possible, the schools do things to make it harder for parents to collaborate, especially on actual education: * Objectives are rarely published so parents can understand what is being taught. * Common core math makes it impossible for parents who did not learn co…
Tragedy of the commons - enough parents don't see their kids as anything but perfect to dissuade teachers from wanting to talk to the parents about issues their little darlings have. That said, > Common core math makes it impossible for parents who did not learn common core style calculation Is false. I didn't learn common core as a child, but I was able to pick it up as an adult. There's a lot of good resources onli…
I'm a nuclear engineer by education and stuggled with doing computations using common core methods. I can only imagine how most people who didn't pick a profession that involved advanced math fare when faced with doing long division common core style.
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That’s promoting school choice. (Which I support) A very political topic. As one side is very against it
It seems like the same folks who advocate for school choice are pro-vouchers, which logically follows, even if I disagree, but also anti-funding reform for public schools. It seems like some wealthy folks want to have access to good quality schools at the expense of less wealthy folks, but with many layers of abstraction and misdirection. I wish we would fund schools directly and fairly, instead of how we do it now v…
In BC private schools get (or used to get, govt changed recently) half of the funding of public schools.
I don’t know if the issues are to the same degree, but they certainly exist. That said I vastly preferred the poorer school where we got to wear hats to the rich area school with more rigidity.
It’s funny too as in my area the private expensive Christian schools would shuffle off their pregnant teenage moms (the rates were alarming) off to the poor school that had the teenage mom program. So to me education solves a lot more problems than income for sure.
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Why should pupils be barred from learning math and science just because the parents did not enjoy sufficient education? It's one of the core tasks of the school system to ensure that pupils do not suffer disadvantages from their parent's educational background.
> Why should pupils be barred from learning math and science just because the parents did not enjoy sufficient education? In the US we changed how math is taught about 10 years ago. 1 + 1 is still equal to two, but the children are taught an entire new methodology for calculation. I'm a nuclear engineer and had to re-learn how to do basic maths just to be able to help my children when they struggle with basic arithme…
Mathematics education in the United States has been in constant flux since the post-war era. The objections some parents have against “Common Core math” (which, incidentally, is not mandated by the Common Core; that is merely a set of uniform content standards) are the same objections parents had against New Math in the seventies.
My personal opinion is that the US has a bad case of Not Invented Here when it comes to pedagogy (half structural racism, half vestigial anti-communism, half class warfare, and half other things) which is then amplified by inconsistent funding and limited federal oversight.
Even if you burnt every grade school math textbook written after 1950, the problem would still persist.
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Ha, maybe! We got lucky that Papillion’s menu has a json feed. If Elkhorn does too then it’s doable. But seems most districts are stuck in pdf files
Still doable. AWS have a tool for parsing JSON files and turning them into a JSON feed: Textract. Given you’d already be inside the AWS ecosystem building the Alexa skill, it would make some sense leveraging that service.
But hey, if a district or school menu software company wanted to sponsor it, it could absolutely get done
Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops
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Stakeholder != Owner Yes, parents have a role. Yes, parents have a stake. They are not exclusive in this.
Is there a better definition of who “owns” a school other than the public tax payers?
Taxpayers are a subset of stakeholders.
(Few childres are taxpayers, for starters, at least not in any significant capacity. They are a primary, but still not the sole nor determinative, stakeholder.)