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Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by thebooktocome »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #16
downWidOutaFite wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is parents want to pass on their own brainwashing down to their children. Like teaching creationism or that slaveowners were good people. Creating more brainwashed citizens hurts all of us.

You should attend your local PTA meeting if this what you think parents are trying to pass down.

Having known a couple librarians in my time, there seem to be an unlimited number of ‘concerned parents’ trying to get books that upset them banned, including for the reasons listed by the grandparent above.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by pjbeam »

downWidOutaFite wrote: post #15
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #3

In the USA it’s a hot issue right now whether the schools work for the parents, or whether the schools have autonomy from parents. I read articles like this (and others) and I feel we’ve swayed too far into the “schools are autonomous” side of things. I want it to swing back.

The problem is parents want to pass on their own brainwashing down to their children. Like teaching creationism or that slaveowners were good people. Creating more brainwashed citizens hurts all of us.

So you're sure that the brainwashing the state picks is the correct version?

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by dwrowe »

krony wrote: post #5

On a much smaller scale, a bad school app experience is the main reason why I built an Alexa app for anyone in our district to easily ask Alexa for the lunch menu daily https://github.com/jeffsheets/alexa-papio-lunch-menu/ Pretty common for school district apps to feel antiquated and hard to use. Definitely a disruptible space.

Hello fellow Nebraskan! If you’d extend this to Elkhorn my kids (and I) would think you’re a wizard!

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Post by renewiltord »

treeman79 wrote: post #20
alistairSH wrote: post #14

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Let us spend our school tax money on schools of our choice then.

This is absolutely correct. Public schools can compete with private schools via vouchers.

The crazy anti-gays can send their kids to whatever church or madrasa or whatever.

The disruptive kids can go wherever.

The smart kids can go wherever.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by renewiltord »

For stories like this, 99% of the time it’s a government institution. That’s because the primary purpose of these is to leech money off people to provide an inferior service.

This happens because the worse the service the more money they get. “We need more funding” is their common cry but the marginal dollar provides zero or negative value as even more corrupt leeches flock to the system to extract all excess dollars.

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Post by retrac »

renewiltord wrote: post #24
treeman79 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let us spend our school tax money on schools of our choice then.

This is absolutely correct. Public schools can compete with private schools via vouchers. The crazy anti-gays can send their kids to whatever church or madrasa or whatever. The disruptive kids can go wherever. The smart kids can go wherever.

> The crazy anti-gays can send their kids to whatever church or madrasa or whatever.

Would sure hate to be a gay kid. At least with public education in that case, there's a small hope of exposure to the greater world.

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Post by mlyle »

renewiltord wrote: post #24
treeman79 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let us spend our school tax money on schools of our choice then.

This is absolutely correct. Public schools can compete with private schools via vouchers. The crazy anti-gays can send their kids to whatever church or madrasa or whatever. The disruptive kids can go wherever. The smart kids can go wherever.

You end up with private schools with competitive admissions and terrible schools for the remnants, then, if you go with a 100% voucher approach. The expensive to teach students (with disabilities, needing educational & behavioral interventions, etc) and those with absent / uncooperative students all cluster in one public backstop that almost certainly doesn't work well.

I say this as a teacher in a private school. I'm well aware that my job is educator "easy mode" in many ways.

Perhaps partial vouchers -- you get 30%-50% of what the state spends on an average student-- could help to expand choice and diversity in education while keeping a system of universal education intact. But 100% vouchers are a recipe for disaster IMO.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by effie »

alistairSH wrote: post #14
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #3

In the USA it’s a hot issue right now whether the schools work for the parents, or whether the schools have autonomy from parents. I read articles like this (and others) and I feel we’ve swayed too far into the “schools are autonomous” side of things. I want it to swing back.

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It's just not extremely religious parents, and comparing them to Taliban says a lot about you. And who should dictate what kind of material school teach? Who should decide that this is benefitial to children and that is a harmful propaganda? Parents should have a say, because they are well, parents.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by sroussey »

nostromo wrote: post #9
syshum wrote: post #4

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Schools should never be autonomous, but I dont believe they should be considered to work for parents either Schools should work to produce well rounded educated productive citizens for the community. That includes the parents, but also includes childless citizens, businesses, etc. The politics of both parents, AND teachers have muddled the true mission of what a school should be. I would like to see schools return to…

> Schools should work to produce well rounded educated productive citizens for the community. No. Children are not a commodity, to be molded by the needs of the state by the educational industrial complex. Children are people. Their own interests should be paramount. Not those of the community, the state, or even the parents. (The parents are generally more trusted because they have their children’s best interest at…

I know enough people thrown out of their home for being gay that I hesitate on the idea that the parents are the most trusted (which is why I like the way you phrase it — more trusted). There are a lot of cooperating and competing interests at play, which is how it should be.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Post by krony »

dwrowe wrote: post #23
krony wrote: post #5

On a much smaller scale, a bad school app experience is the main reason why I built an Alexa app for anyone in our district to easily ask Alexa for the lunch menu daily https://github.com/jeffsheets/alexa-papio-lunch-menu/ Pretty common for school district apps to feel antiquated and hard to use. Definitely a disruptible space.

Hello fellow Nebraskan! If you’d extend this to Elkhorn my kids (and I) would think you’re a wizard!

Ha, maybe! We got lucky that Papillion’s menu has a json feed. If Elkhorn does too then it’s doable. But seems most districts are stuck in pdf files
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