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Contract for Sale of Soul

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Re: Contract for Sale of Soul

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

emodendroket wrote: post #28
clejack wrote: post #14

The most amazing thing about this to me is that as conceptually interesting as this contract is at a high level, and given that I started off interested in the document, about half way through my eyes were glazing over ;and I gave up. I have to wonder how lawyers do their job. I've read chapters of academic text for my own knowledge, but somehow this legal writing style crushes me every time.

I recently bought a house in California and at some point a few hundred pages in I started to wonder about the wisdom of my insistence on reading everything. But it's straightforward enough to understand if you can tolerate the boredom.

On France it is completely covered by the law and you cannot make any arrangements. So the document is pages and pages long (this is France, we live bureaucracy) but the content is the same for everyone.

It wild be much easier to have a 3 pages agreement with references but how would the notary explain their costs?

Au least as a seller and buyer you are safe.

Re: Contract for Sale of Soul

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Post by mettamage »

hn_throwaway_69 wrote: post #57
clejack wrote: post #14

The most amazing thing about this to me is that as conceptually interesting as this contract is at a high level, and given that I started off interested in the document, about half way through my eyes were glazing over ;and I gave up. I have to wonder how lawyers do their job. I've read chapters of academic text for my own knowledge, but somehow this legal writing style crushes me every time.

Lawyer here. Legalisms don't make for particularly hard contracts. In the real world, I've found complexity is often caused by attempts to simplify the contract. Or perhaps to simplify its drafting. The most common offender is the overuse of Definitions which are often Capitalised Definitions. Interestingly in code you might compare it to the use of a function (); except that in the real world you can't easily call a…

> you physically have to flick back and forth between pages to understand what the contract means.

Well, when a function is called the computer does this as well. And it drags me along with it when I am in a debugging session with a debugger on :P

Re: Contract for Sale of Soul

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Post by bobthechef »

moeris wrote: post #30

> Seller warrants that to the best of their knowledge, no existing claims or liens exist on the transferred Soul and agrees that any prior commitments that are in their power to dissolve are formally dissolved by the formation and signing of this agreement. Does this mean that Christians would be bound to being baptized prior to selling their soul?

Christians can’t “sell” their souls as it is a category mistake in the first place.

And even if you could “sell” it, in the sense that you could reject God and thus one’s own good and choose instead your own self-destruction (hence the irrationality of evil), you could always repent and receive the sacrament of penance. Therefore, no such contract would be binding.

Re: Contract for Sale of Soul

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Post by traverseda »

moeris wrote: post #30

> Seller warrants that to the best of their knowledge, no existing claims or liens exist on the transferred Soul and agrees that any prior commitments that are in their power to dissolve are formally dissolved by the formation and signing of this agreement. Does this mean that Christians would be bound to being baptized prior to selling their soul?

Presumably if they got baptized after selling their soul you could sue them for damages...
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