Making a zielverkoper’s job easy, though more literal, eh?
Contract for Sale of Soul
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#62The most amazing thing about this to me is that as conceptually interesting as this contract is at a high level, and given that I started off interested in the document, about half way through my eyes were glazing over ;and I gave up. I have to wonder how lawyers do their job. I've read chapters of academic text for my own knowledge, but somehow this legal writing style crushes me every time.
Lawyer here. Legalisms don't make for particularly hard contracts. In the real world, I've found complexity is often caused by attempts to simplify the contract. Or perhaps to simplify its drafting. The most common offender is the overuse of Definitions which are often Capitalised Definitions. Interestingly in code you might compare it to the use of a function (); except that in the real world you can't easily call a…
How common is it that a judge has to dig deeply into a contract?
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#63Oh come on now, only 10$ for the soul??? If it was 10BTC I would consider it ;-)
For how much would you be willing to sell your soul?
> SECTION III. COMPENSATION FOR TRANSFER > A. Buyer agrees to compensate Seller with an amount of no less than ten (10) United States Dollars for the transfer of the Soul within 48 commonly recognized Earth-hours of the receipt of the signed agreement via any medium, physical or electronic, as described in Section II-C, according to the conditions outlined in this Section (III).
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lawyer here. Legalisms don't make for particularly hard contracts. In the real world, I've found complexity is often caused by attempts to simplify the contract. Or perhaps to simplify its drafting. The most common offender is the overuse of Definitions which are often Capitalised Definitions. Interestingly in code you might compare it to the use of a function (); except that in the real world you can't easily call a…
How common is it that a judge has to dig deeply into a contract?
Depends on the nature of the issue at trial.
Sometimes it's fairly confined. Usually they don't need to understand the whole thing.
But the interpretation isn't piecemeal and usually requires understanding the background.
Re: Contract for Sale of Soul
#65Obligatory literature before signing this contract is the precedent described by Thomas Theodor Heine in "Der Teufel in Warenhaus"[0], first published in early 1930's Simplicissimus[1]. Even machine translation from the original German is probably worth reading.
[0] https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/heineth/maerchen/chap001.h...
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#66It would be interesting to see the stats on acceptance of this contract if it was used as the terms & conditions of some popular website or the clickwrap agreement on a popular software package.
Wouldn’t be enforceable due to section 3, clauses a and b: > SECTION III. COMPENSATION FOR TRANSFER > A. Buyer agrees to compensate Seller with an amount of no less than ten (10) United States Dollars for the transfer of the Soul within 48 commonly recognized Earth-hours of the receipt of the signed agreement via any medium, physical or electronic, as described in Section II-C, according to the conditions outlined in…
> G. In the event that the Buyer fails to send the compensation as described in this Section (III) within 48 hours of receipt of the contract signed by the Seller, the contract will be considered null and void and the ownership of the Soul shall revert to the Seller.
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#67Reminds me of the website of the late 90's early 00's.. was it wewantyoursoul.com or something like that?
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#68The most amazing thing about this to me is that as conceptually interesting as this contract is at a high level, and given that I started off interested in the document, about half way through my eyes were glazing over ;and I gave up. I have to wonder how lawyers do their job. I've read chapters of academic text for my own knowledge, but somehow this legal writing style crushes me every time.
This was not written by lawyers. Law students... maybe, but not actual lawyers. It reads like someone who has seen property transfer contracts but hasn't actually used them in the real world to transfer intangibles. >>Seller agrees to honor the spirit of this agreement Big red flag there. I have never run across anyone with legal training using "spirit" language. >>ignorance of any consequences ... will not invalidat…
> I have never run across anyone with legal training using "spirit" language.
I know what you mean (and agree), but some spirit language seems required by the subject matter :-)...
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#69I wonder what she ever did with all the souls she bought last year...
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#70Does anyone want to buy mine? I'll sell for 1.5 million dollars.