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Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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This is a continuation of the story began in 1945 of the unwinding one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire#Decolonisation_...

> Between 1945 and 1965, the number of people under British rule outside the UK itself fell from 700 million to 5 million, 3 million of whom were in Hong Kong.

Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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Curious if when Queen Elizabeth passes away, if there will be a surge in republican interest in the various realms outside of the UK. For the vast majority of the population in those countries, she's the only monarch they've ever known. Once Charles, or perhaps William, takes over, that link to the past will have been severed.

Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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This is a continuation of the story began in 1945 of the unwinding one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire#Decolonisation_... > Between 1945 and 1965, the number of people under British rule outside the UK itself fell from 700 million to 5 million, 3 million of whom were in Hong Kong.

Sad days for all British people

Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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This is a continuation of the story began in 1945 of the unwinding one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire#Decolonisation_... > Between 1945 and 1965, the number of people under British rule outside the UK itself fell from 700 million to 5 million, 3 million of whom were in Hong Kong.

Sad days for all British people

Don’t worry I’m sure Brexit will bring colonialism back

Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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Curious if when Queen Elizabeth passes away, if there will be a surge in republican interest in the various realms outside of the UK. For the vast majority of the population in those countries, she's the only monarch they've ever known. Once Charles, or perhaps William, takes over, that link to the past will have been severed.

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Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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Curious if when Queen Elizabeth passes away, if there will be a surge in republican interest in the various realms outside of the UK. For the vast majority of the population in those countries, she's the only monarch they've ever known. Once Charles, or perhaps William, takes over, that link to the past will have been severed.

Australia voted no. Many assume this was older anglo Australians who revere the Queen and hope for a re vote when Charles accedes to the throne. He's a nong, and has much less visible support, and even active opposition.

I personally suspect it's the dichotomy of directly elected president or a chamber elected symbolic president which functionally is what the governor general is. Basically the republican vote was split while the royalist vote was clear behind one outcome.

I voted for a republic. I wouldn't have, if the intent was to make it a direct election. I prefer the bicameral chambers to do it, a symbolic minor depoliticised role is better to me, than a standard strong popular elected president.

Also, referendum being expensive there was another question about a preamble to the constitution recognising aboriginal Australians. Again, this had divided support because of (in my personal opinion) a dishonest claim it discriminated between Australians. Two questions has some evidence causes higher no votes to both questions than one simple question.

Re: Barbados’s long-drawn-out promise of a republic

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Sometimes I wonder if we generally have too high of expectations about how quickly good government can be established.

Technology and media move very quickly, and it's easy to think "just git clone the laws and deploy" and you'll have the same results as whatever country you're emulating. But it doesn't happen that way.

I'm not really making an argument here, just wondering out loud. I don't want this to be interpreted as a reason to endure bad government longer than necessary. Maybe just to not be too disappointed when problems don't disappear over night.

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