Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85% • Hacker News Board

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Post by grey413 » Fri, Nov 05, 2021, 3:43 PM UTC

neltnerb wrote: post #210

If you take an antiviral like this, do you still develop a good immune response to reinfection? I wonder because almost everyone who might end up needing this isn't vaccinated (based on hospitalization rates) so I hope that at the end they also end up having some immunity to catching it again at least. In the moment of course it is better to use than not.

Anyone taking this should still develop an immune memory to covid. As I recall, even people who took monoclonal antibodies (that is to say, an antiviral where they literally inject functional anti-covid antibodies into your veins) developed some degree of natural immunity.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Post by jasonpeacock » Fri, Nov 05, 2021, 3:44 PM UTC

jasonpeacock wrote: post #213

colordrops wrote: post #110

Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.

When hospitalization rates are down. In many metro areas the ICU are still full of un-vaccinated COVID patients, which means people with normal emergencies can't get a bed. Thus, COVID precautions are necessary to reduce the rate of infection to levels that do not overwhelm the healthcare system. And all those areas that have "returned to normal" are sending their COVID patients to regions that are still masking beca…

Here's "hospital stress" data for the US, showing where COVID patients are overwhelming the healthcare systems:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/9443799...

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Post by covfa3hah » Fri, Nov 05, 2021, 3:44 PM UTC

COVID NEWS IS FAGGOT NEWS

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Post by encryptluks2 » Fri, Nov 05, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #347

throwawaymedia wrote: post #337

Before everyone becomes super excited, I want you all to read this article from Nov 2: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 Read it carefully. Pfizer falsifies clinical data and covers up significant adverse effects. FDA knows about all of that and covers their asses. Whatever comes from Pfizer will be authorized without any questions being asked. It's not even a legislation, but a straight up internal arrangeme…

One of Pfizer's trial vendors falsified information. https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/fact-check-re... > The Pfizer Phase III trial involved 44,000 people and 153 locations. From August 2020 through Sept. 17, 2020 — when she was fired — Jackson told CBS 17 that Ventavia accounted for at least 1,200 of those people and accounted for three sites. The author of the BMJ piece is quoted as saying “people are…

Trial vendor.. LOL. Reminds me of a politician getting caught doing something. It wasn't my fault, it was the fault of the person I paid to do it.

Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%

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Post by nradov » Fri, Nov 05, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

jayknight wrote: post #260

colordrops wrote: post #110

Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.

This is a good article. I'm firmly on team do-what-it-takes-to-stop-the-spread, but no one has an exit strategy. I got a booster and we have appointments for two of our three kids to get there first shot. By mid-December I'm hoping to not have to think much about it anymore. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/what-amer...

I encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated, but at this point there is zero possibility to stop the spread. Your "team" never had a chance. We can all expect to get infected eventually.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immu...